Lets get things about the ritviks straight

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> Jahnu das claims that Bhakta KK is the only one who

> claims that Srila Prabhupada initiated the ritvik

> system.

 

Please, KK Desai is not a bhakta. What kind of bhakta would be the editor of

a magazine that is dedicated to fault-finding, gossip and slander of

Vaishnavas? What kind of bhakta would write a piece of trash like TFO? You

need to get some terms straight in your head.

 

> Seems that he is way off here, going against all the

> evidence. [July 9th 1977 etc.]

 

The only one who thinks that the letter of July 9th constitutes Prabhupada's

final words on initiations in ISKCON is KK Desai and his fellow ritviks. I

find it very curious that you have chosen to listen to someone like KK Desai

rather than the whole world assembly of Vaishnavas. There is not one single

devotee in ISKCON or the rest of the Gaudiya Math or any other Vaishnava

anywhere in the world who thinks that the letter of July 9th is evidence of

anything other than what it was meant to be, namely a communique sent to all

the temples to notify them about the backlog of disciples who waited to

become initiated by Srila Prabhupada, and that this would be done by proxies

because he at that time was too sick to even sit in a fire yajna.

 

> Out of interest, do any other members of this

> conference support this deviant view?

 

Deviant view? That's rich coming from you. It is interesting to see how your

brain actually works. You call the whole world assembly of Vaishnavas for

deviants, while you seem to think that the only true Vaishnavas are the

ritviks. Now, lets examine who these ritviks are. First of all they publish

a magazine which is dedicated to, in the most coarse and sensationalistic

manner, listing the faults and scandals of a particular group of Vaisnavas.

Is it the behavior of Vaishnavas to publish magazines with the sole purpose

of describing scandals and filth? Is there any precedence for this anywhere

in the world of Vaishnava history? Have you ever heard of a group of

Vaishnavas at anytime, anywhere in the world who would publish a magazine

like the BTP with pictures of all the devotees and their short-comings and

embarrassments? I think you know the answer.

 

Secondly, the ritvikvadis actively work to destroy the faith in guru, sadhu

and sastra. Anyone who does that is in the sastra described to be a demon.

So just from that fact alone we can understand that the ritvikvadis are

demons.

 

Thirdly, let's examine who is doing what in terms of fulfilling and serving

Srila Prabhupada's desires. On the one hand we have ISKCON, who despite all

obstacles and the personal weaknesses and fall-downs of some of its members,

still year after year continue to spread the yuga-dharma all over the world.

In all ISKCON temples of the world Srila Prabhupada's program is being

followed every day. Harinam, book-distribution, book-publications,

prasadam-distribution and all kinds of other preaching activities are going

on due to the tireless and dedicated efforts of humble devotees.

 

Then on the other hand we have a handful of ritviks, and what is their

contribution to the preaching mission? That's right, a big fat zero. The

only thing the ritviks do is to non-stop criticize ISKCON's devotees and

find faults with them. That's all. You don't find one single ritvikvadi out

there preaching to the conditioned souls. The only thing we find ritvikvadis

doing is reveling in the faults of others and trying to undermine the faith

in Srila Prabhupada and his devotees. That is clearly only the work of

Kali's agents.

 

I have met many ritviks during the years, and what's the first thing

everyone of them without exception always tell you? - 'Gee, did you hear

about so and so sannyasi who fell down? Did you hear about this scandal, did

you about that.?'

 

And you claim to be the true followers of Prabupada??? I mean, please, give

me a break. Who do you think you are fooling? It is just so clear who you

are and where you come from. You will never win anyone with a working brain

in his head, over to your demonic cause. In fact, you'll never be anything

else but losers.