Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 <<<<<<Dear Bhakta Johnny, PAMHO. AGTSP! > in fact there is plenty of evidence that srila prabhupada didnt consider > anyone of his disciples qualified for permission in this field. Yet another one who says that Srila Prabhupada's mission was a failure. > and its admirably demonstrated that no one has received permission from > prabhupada otherwise how comes so many of them fly away from the > principles. Please tell us what you would accept as an authorization or permission. ys Ramakanta dasa >>>>>. ROOM CONVERSATION - APRIL 22, 1977, BOMBAY Srila Prabhupada: "I told him that 'You cannot do so independent. You are doing nice, but not to do in the magazine.' (Pause) People complained against Hansadutta. Did you know that?" Tamala Krsna: "I'm not sure of the particular incidences, but I've heard general..." Srila Prabhupada: "In Germany. In Germany." Tamala Krsna: "The devotees there." Srila Prabhupada: "So many complaints." Tamala Krsna: "Therefore, change is good." Srila Prabhupada: "You become guru, but you must be qualified first of all. Then you become. Tamala Krsna: "Oh, that kind of complaint was there." Srila Prabhupada: "Did you know that?" Tamala Krsna: "Yeah, I heard that, yeah." Srila Prabhupada: "What is the use of producing some rascal guru?" Tamala Krsna: "Well, I have studied myself and all of your disciples, and it's a clear fact that we are all conditioned souls, so we cannot be guru. Maybe one day it may be possible." Srila Prabhupada: "Hmm!" Tamala Krsna: "...but not now." Srila Prabhupada: " you become acarya. You become authorised.' I am waiting for that. YouYes. I shall produce some gurus. I shall say who is guru, 'Now become, all, acarya. I retire completely. But the training must be complete." Tamala Krsna: "The process of purification must be there." Srila Prabhupada: "Oh yes, must be there. Caitanya Mahaprabhu wants. amara ajnaya guru hana. You become guru. But be qualified. (Laughs) Little thing, strictly follower." Tamala Krsna: "No rubber stamp." Srila Prabhupada: "Then you'll not be effective. You can cheat, but it will not be effective. Just see our Gaudiya Math. Everyone wanted to become guru, and a small temple and guru. What kind of guru? No publication, no preaching, simply bring some foodstuff...My Guru Maharaja used to say, 'Joint mess, a place for eating and sleeping." RAMAKANTA PLEASE READ IT IN BLACK AND WHITE THAT SRILA PRABHUPADA WILL SAY WHO IS ACARYA. DID HE SAY??? NO HE DID NOT. HE AGREED WITH TAMALA THAT NONE OF "US" ARE QUALIFIED. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT MATE PRABHUPADA DID NOT SAY, AND THATS WHAT I WOULD ACCEPT, NOT YOUR NO OBJECTION VOTE RUBBER STAMP GBC APPROVED GURU. NO THANKS " you become acarya. You become authorised.' I am waiting for that. YouYes. I shall produce some gurus. I shall say who is guru, '........ DID SRILA PRABHUPADA SAY/AUTHORIZE ANYONE RAMAKANTA???? I WILL BE YOUR MOUTHPIECE THIS TIME: NO NO NO HE DID NOT END OF THE GBC GURU FARCE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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