Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 (1) "Before Srila Prabhupada appeared, the system was that after the departure of his guru the disciple becomes the next diksa guru." This is a historical fact. (2) During ten years Srila Prabhupada described the system where the disciple becomes the next diksa guru. So he did not change the system. This is confirmed in Srila Prabhupada's books and by following quotes: "One who is now the disciple is the next spiritual master." (SB 2.9.43 Purport) "Just like a critical student under a professor, he becomes a first-class professor, similarly, a person who is a very rigid student of bona fide acarya, he becomes next acarya." (Madhya-lila 20.144-146 -- New York, December 1, 1966) Also Srila Prabhupada several times said and wrote that he did not change anything. For example: "I am simply serving my spiritual master, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja and all the acaryas in the disciplic succession. If I have done anything of credit it is that I have not changed their teachings. I have not added anything of my own interpretation." (Letter to: Bhima, Krsna dasa, Sanat Kumara, Nityananda, Samba, Joseph -- Bombay 16 May, 1974) (3) At the first few initiations Srila Prabhupada did everything himself. But after some time he introduced the ritvik system by letting another person perform the fire yajna while Srila Prabhupada was still present at the initiation ceremoy and chanted on the beads. The system was still that after the departure of his guru the disciple becomes the next diksa guru. (4) From 1973 on Srila Prabhupada was no longer present at all initiation ceremonies. So he extended the ritvik system a little by letting the temple president chant on the beads and preside the initiation ceremony. The system was still that after the departure of his guru the disciple becomes the next diksa guru. (5) On July 9th, 1977 Srila Prabhupada made one more little change in the ritvik system, namely that 'henceforward' the temple presidents should send the recommendation for initiation to one of the representatives instead of Srila Prabhupada. The system was still that after the departure of his guru the disciple becomes the next diksa guru. (6) Srila Prabhupada gave the instruction not to change anything. This includes not to change the system that after the departure of his guru the disciple becomes the next diksa guru. Conclusion: "The ritvik system ended on Srila Prabhupada's departure." To refute this proof you have to prove that (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) or (6) is wrong. ys Ramakanta dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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