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Thank you for forwarding the proposals of the ICC cow protection

sub-committee.

 

I am of the opinion that the Indian goshallas may well have to have an

adjusted cow protection standard.

 

Some points of consideration.

 

Land and cow number relationship. Whilst there is no doubt that the best

practice is for the goshallas to have adequate grazing land for the entire

herd it seems that the legislation of this as a must will stop ISKCON indian

goshallas completely. It will not stop the utilisation of milk, as milk will

be purchased elsewhere, it will also not stop the transference of oxen and

dry cows into the slaughter path, as this will most probably be done by the

suppliers of the purchased milk.

 

My view would be that goshallas can breed cows under the following

conditions:

 

a. They are given a licence to breed a certain number each year. This would

be a rolling agreament passed by the ministry of agriculture and cow

protection.

 

b. Goshallas breeding cows must have additional capacity in their goshalla/s

for 4 years of breeding. In other words they will have enough building space

for the next 4 years of births.

 

c. If the goshallas spare capacity becomes only two years or less of

breeding they must immeadiately stop breeding.

 

d. There can be no giving, selling or moving away any of the ISKCON cows.

 

e. Goshallas must be prepared to build for the entire herd calculated over a

15 year period. For example if Vrndavana or Mayapura wants to breed 50 cows

per year then they must have building plans to house 750 cows and oxen.

Obviously if they want to breed 70 cows per year then they would have to

have a building plan for 1050 cows and oxen.

 

f. There must be a clear and realistic buiseness plan submitted to show how

after 15 years of breeding the entire herd can be maintained.

 

 

ISKCON must develop a system of goshalla that is sustainable and applicable

to the 21st century that does not include giving away or selling cows and

oxen. To realise this we may have to allow goshallas to have practices that

are not the highest standard. But of course they must absolutely take care

of all the offspring.

 

ys Syamasundara dasa

Goshalla Manager

Bhaktivedanta Manor

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This is a great suggestion. Who is going to make this proposal to the GBC?

Because if they don't know about it or have a proposal about it they will pass

the other proposal. Does anyone know how to make a proposal to the GBC? How

about you Syamasundara prabhu.

 

Lakshmi Devi

-- "Syamasundara (das) (Bhaktivedanta Manor - UK)" <Syamasundara (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

wrote:

Thank you for forwarding the proposals of the ICC cow protection

sub-committee.

 

I am of the opinion that the Indian goshallas may well have to have an

adjusted cow protection standard.

 

Some points of consideration.

 

Land and cow number relationship. Whilst there is no doubt that the best

practice is for the goshallas to have adequate grazing land for the entire

herd it seems that the legislation of this as a must will stop ISKCON indian

goshallas completely. It will not stop the utilisation of milk, as milk will

be purchased elsewhere, it will also not stop the transference of oxen and

dry cows into the slaughter path, as this will most probably be done by the

suppliers of the purchased milk.

 

My view would be that goshallas can breed cows under the following

conditions:

 

a. They are given a licence to breed a certain number each year. This would

be a rolling agreament passed by the ministry of agriculture and cow

protection.

 

b. Goshallas breeding cows must have additional capacity in their goshalla/s

for 4 years of breeding. In other words they will have enough building space

for the next 4 years of births.

 

c. If the goshallas spare capacity becomes only two years or less of

breeding they must immeadiately stop breeding.

 

d. There can be no giving, selling or moving away any of the ISKCON cows.

 

e. Goshallas must be prepared to build for the entire herd calculated over a

15 year period. For example if Vrndavana or Mayapura wants to breed 50 cows

per year then they must have building plans to house 750 cows and oxen.

Obviously if they want to breed 70 cows per year then they would have to

have a building plan for 1050 cows and oxen.

 

f. There must be a clear and realistic buiseness plan submitted to show how

after 15 years of breeding the entire herd can be maintained.

 

 

ISKCON must develop a system of goshalla that is sustainable and applicable

to the 21st century that does not include giving away or selling cows and

oxen. To realise this we may have to allow goshallas to have practices that

are not the highest standard. But of course they must absolutely take care

of all the offspring.

 

ys Syamasundara dasa

Goshalla Manager

Bhaktivedanta Manor

 

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Not sure what to do on this. As you folks may or may not know, this

unwise proposal -- once again -- to reduce the cow protection standards

was basically the straw-that-broke-the-camel's-back. Balabhadra and

Chaya have now presented their resignation from Ministry of Cow

Protection and Agriculture to the GBC.

 

After 10-15 years of struggle on this, they feel they want to devote

their efforts to more productive work in cow protection and focus more

on their outreach efforts through ISCOWP.

 

But the implication for ISKCON's cows is that they have now lost their

main fighting advocates. There is presently no one who can fight for

them and take this to the GBC, unless someone here can do that. I'm not

sure who the GBC will appoint.

 

ys

hkdd

 

holycow108 (AT) juno (DOT) com wrote:

 

>This is a great suggestion. Who is going to make this proposal to the GBC?

Because if they don't know about it or have a proposal about it they will pass

the other proposal. Does anyone know how to make a proposal to the GBC? How

about you Syamasundara prabhu.

>

>Lakshmi Devi

>-- "Syamasundara (das) (Bhaktivedanta Manor - UK)" <Syamasundara (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

wrote:

>Thank you for forwarding the proposals of the ICC cow protection

>sub-committee.

>

>I am of the opinion that the Indian goshallas may well have to have an

>adjusted cow protection standard.

>

>Some points of consideration.

>

>Land and cow number relationship. Whilst there is no doubt that the best

>practice is for the goshallas to have adequate grazing land for the entire

>herd it seems that the legislation of this as a must will stop ISKCON indian

>goshallas completely. It will not stop the utilisation of milk, as milk will

>be purchased elsewhere, it will also not stop the transference of oxen and

>dry cows into the slaughter path, as this will most probably be done by the

>suppliers of the purchased milk.

>

>My view would be that goshallas can breed cows under the following

>conditions:

>

>a. They are given a licence to breed a certain number each year. This would

>be a rolling agreament passed by the ministry of agriculture and cow

>protection.

>

>b. Goshallas breeding cows must have additional capacity in their goshalla/s

>for 4 years of breeding. In other words they will have enough building space

>for the next 4 years of births.

>

>c. If the goshallas spare capacity becomes only two years or less of

>breeding they must immeadiately stop breeding.

>

>d. There can be no giving, selling or moving away any of the ISKCON cows.

>

>e. Goshallas must be prepared to build for the entire herd calculated over a

>15 year period. For example if Vrndavana or Mayapura wants to breed 50 cows

>per year then they must have building plans to house 750 cows and oxen.

>Obviously if they want to breed 70 cows per year then they would have to

>have a building plan for 1050 cows and oxen.

>

>f. There must be a clear and realistic buiseness plan submitted to show how

>after 15 years of breeding the entire herd can be maintained.

>

>

>ISKCON must develop a system of goshalla that is sustainable and applicable

>to the 21st century that does not include giving away or selling cows and

>oxen. To realise this we may have to allow goshallas to have practices that

>are not the highest standard. But of course they must absolutely take care

>of all the offspring.

>

>ys Syamasundara dasa

>Goshalla Manager

>Bhaktivedanta Manor

>

>-----------------------

>To from this mailing list, send an email to:

>Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net

>

>

>_________________

>Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand.

>Now includes pop-up blocker!

>Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today!

>

>

>

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