Guest guest Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Thank you for forwarding the proposals of the ICC cow protection sub-committee. I am of the opinion that the Indian goshallas may well have to have an adjusted cow protection standard. Some points of consideration. Land and cow number relationship. Whilst there is no doubt that the best practice is for the goshallas to have adequate grazing land for the entire herd it seems that the legislation of this as a must will stop ISKCON indian goshallas completely. It will not stop the utilisation of milk, as milk will be purchased elsewhere, it will also not stop the transference of oxen and dry cows into the slaughter path, as this will most probably be done by the suppliers of the purchased milk. My view would be that goshallas can breed cows under the following conditions: a. They are given a licence to breed a certain number each year. This would be a rolling agreament passed by the ministry of agriculture and cow protection. b. Goshallas breeding cows must have additional capacity in their goshalla/s for 4 years of breeding. In other words they will have enough building space for the next 4 years of births. c. If the goshallas spare capacity becomes only two years or less of breeding they must immeadiately stop breeding. d. There can be no giving, selling or moving away any of the ISKCON cows. e. Goshallas must be prepared to build for the entire herd calculated over a 15 year period. For example if Vrndavana or Mayapura wants to breed 50 cows per year then they must have building plans to house 750 cows and oxen. Obviously if they want to breed 70 cows per year then they would have to have a building plan for 1050 cows and oxen. f. There must be a clear and realistic buiseness plan submitted to show how after 15 years of breeding the entire herd can be maintained. ISKCON must develop a system of goshalla that is sustainable and applicable to the 21st century that does not include giving away or selling cows and oxen. To realise this we may have to allow goshallas to have practices that are not the highest standard. But of course they must absolutely take care of all the offspring. ys Syamasundara dasa Goshalla Manager Bhaktivedanta Manor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 This is a great suggestion. Who is going to make this proposal to the GBC? Because if they don't know about it or have a proposal about it they will pass the other proposal. Does anyone know how to make a proposal to the GBC? How about you Syamasundara prabhu. Lakshmi Devi -- "Syamasundara (das) (Bhaktivedanta Manor - UK)" <Syamasundara (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote: Thank you for forwarding the proposals of the ICC cow protection sub-committee. I am of the opinion that the Indian goshallas may well have to have an adjusted cow protection standard. Some points of consideration. Land and cow number relationship. Whilst there is no doubt that the best practice is for the goshallas to have adequate grazing land for the entire herd it seems that the legislation of this as a must will stop ISKCON indian goshallas completely. It will not stop the utilisation of milk, as milk will be purchased elsewhere, it will also not stop the transference of oxen and dry cows into the slaughter path, as this will most probably be done by the suppliers of the purchased milk. My view would be that goshallas can breed cows under the following conditions: a. They are given a licence to breed a certain number each year. This would be a rolling agreament passed by the ministry of agriculture and cow protection. b. Goshallas breeding cows must have additional capacity in their goshalla/s for 4 years of breeding. In other words they will have enough building space for the next 4 years of births. c. If the goshallas spare capacity becomes only two years or less of breeding they must immeadiately stop breeding. d. There can be no giving, selling or moving away any of the ISKCON cows. e. Goshallas must be prepared to build for the entire herd calculated over a 15 year period. For example if Vrndavana or Mayapura wants to breed 50 cows per year then they must have building plans to house 750 cows and oxen. Obviously if they want to breed 70 cows per year then they would have to have a building plan for 1050 cows and oxen. f. There must be a clear and realistic buiseness plan submitted to show how after 15 years of breeding the entire herd can be maintained. ISKCON must develop a system of goshalla that is sustainable and applicable to the 21st century that does not include giving away or selling cows and oxen. To realise this we may have to allow goshallas to have practices that are not the highest standard. But of course they must absolutely take care of all the offspring. ys Syamasundara dasa Goshalla Manager Bhaktivedanta Manor ----------------------- To from this mailing list, send an email to: Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net _________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 Not sure what to do on this. As you folks may or may not know, this unwise proposal -- once again -- to reduce the cow protection standards was basically the straw-that-broke-the-camel's-back. Balabhadra and Chaya have now presented their resignation from Ministry of Cow Protection and Agriculture to the GBC. After 10-15 years of struggle on this, they feel they want to devote their efforts to more productive work in cow protection and focus more on their outreach efforts through ISCOWP. But the implication for ISKCON's cows is that they have now lost their main fighting advocates. There is presently no one who can fight for them and take this to the GBC, unless someone here can do that. I'm not sure who the GBC will appoint. ys hkdd holycow108 (AT) juno (DOT) com wrote: >This is a great suggestion. Who is going to make this proposal to the GBC? Because if they don't know about it or have a proposal about it they will pass the other proposal. Does anyone know how to make a proposal to the GBC? How about you Syamasundara prabhu. > >Lakshmi Devi >-- "Syamasundara (das) (Bhaktivedanta Manor - UK)" <Syamasundara (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote: >Thank you for forwarding the proposals of the ICC cow protection >sub-committee. > >I am of the opinion that the Indian goshallas may well have to have an >adjusted cow protection standard. > >Some points of consideration. > >Land and cow number relationship. Whilst there is no doubt that the best >practice is for the goshallas to have adequate grazing land for the entire >herd it seems that the legislation of this as a must will stop ISKCON indian >goshallas completely. It will not stop the utilisation of milk, as milk will >be purchased elsewhere, it will also not stop the transference of oxen and >dry cows into the slaughter path, as this will most probably be done by the >suppliers of the purchased milk. > >My view would be that goshallas can breed cows under the following >conditions: > >a. They are given a licence to breed a certain number each year. This would >be a rolling agreament passed by the ministry of agriculture and cow >protection. > >b. Goshallas breeding cows must have additional capacity in their goshalla/s >for 4 years of breeding. In other words they will have enough building space >for the next 4 years of births. > >c. If the goshallas spare capacity becomes only two years or less of >breeding they must immeadiately stop breeding. > >d. There can be no giving, selling or moving away any of the ISKCON cows. > >e. Goshallas must be prepared to build for the entire herd calculated over a >15 year period. For example if Vrndavana or Mayapura wants to breed 50 cows >per year then they must have building plans to house 750 cows and oxen. >Obviously if they want to breed 70 cows per year then they would have to >have a building plan for 1050 cows and oxen. > >f. There must be a clear and realistic buiseness plan submitted to show how >after 15 years of breeding the entire herd can be maintained. > > >ISKCON must develop a system of goshalla that is sustainable and applicable >to the 21st century that does not include giving away or selling cows and >oxen. To realise this we may have to allow goshallas to have practices that >are not the highest standard. But of course they must absolutely take care >of all the offspring. > >ys Syamasundara dasa >Goshalla Manager >Bhaktivedanta Manor > >----------------------- >To from this mailing list, send an email to: >Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net > > >_________________ >Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. >Now includes pop-up blocker! >Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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