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> Why were they worshiping demigods in Dvaraka in Lord Krishna's presence?

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> Why did Krishna's grandson, Anirudha, engage in sexual activities with

> Usa? It doesn't seem to have been spiritual? A possible answer may be:

> "It's Krishna's pastimes." But why then would Krishna have mundane affairs

> in His pastimes. My understanding is that Krishna (and Vishnu tattvas) is

> the only enjoyer and everyone else is meant to be enjoyed by Him. Is it

> then that Anirudha is by category a Vishnu tattva?

 

In Dwaraka there is Chaturvyuha Vasudeva Sankarsana, Pradyumna, Aniruddha.

Also Arjuna kidnapped Subhadra and had romantic feelings for her:)

I doubt sexual afair in the spiritual realm is same.. In material world it

is just rubbing the skin, so what sex in this sense means is maybe not so

easy to understand??

 

SB 1.14.30

TRANSLATION

How is Pradyumna, the great general of the Vrishni family? Is He happy? And

is Aniruddha, the plenary expansion of the Personality of Godhead, faring

well?

PURPORT

Pradyumna and Aniruddha are also expansions of the Personality of Godhead,

and thus They are also vishnu-tattva. At Dvaraka Lord Vasudeva is engaged in

His transcendental pastimes along with His plenary expansions, namely

Sankarasana, Pradyumna and Aniruddha, and therefore each and every one of

Them can be addressed as the Personality of Godhead, as it is mentioned in

connection with the name Aniruddha.

3.1.34

Adi-caturbhuja, the original expansions from Baladeva, are Vasudeva,

Sankarsana, Pradyumna and Aniruddha. All of Them are vishnu-tattvas, or

nondifferent Personalities of Godhead. In the incarnation of Sri Rama, all

these different expansions appeared for particular pastimes. Lord Rama is

the original Vasudeva, and His brothers were Sankarsana, Pradyumna and

Aniruddha. Aniruddha is also the cause of Maha-Vishnu, from whose breathing

the Rg Veda appeared. All this is nicely explained in the Markandeya Purana.

In the incarnation of Lord Krishna, Aniruddha appeared as the son of the

Lord. Lord Krisha in Dvaraka is the Vasudeva expansion of the original

group. The original Lord Krishna never leaves Goloka Vrindavana. All the

plenary expansions are one and the same vishnu-tattva, and there is no

difference in Their potency.

 

3.15.20

 

In the material world, opulences are achieved by materialistic persons by

dint of their labor. One cannot enjoy material prosperity unless he works

very hard to achieve it. But the devotees of the Lord who are residents of

Vaikuntha have the opportunity to enjoy a transcendental situation of jewels

and emeralds. Ornaments made of gold bedecked with jewels are achieved not

by working hard but by the benediction of the Lord. In other words, devotees

in the Vaikuntha world, or even in this material world, cannot be

poverty-stricken, as is sometimes supposed. They have ample opulences for

enjoyment, but they need not labor to achieve them. It is also stated that

in the Vaikuëöha world the consorts of the residents are many, many times

more beautiful than we can find in this material world, even in the higher

planets. It is specifically mentioned here that a woman’s large hips are

very attractive and they stimulate man’s passion, but the wonderful feature

of Vaikuntha is that although the women have large hips and beautiful faces

and are decorated with ornaments of emeralds and jewels, the men are so

absorbed in Krishna consciousness that the beautiful bodies of the women

cannot attract them. In other words, there is enjoyment of the association

of the opposite sex, but there is no sexual relationship. The residents of

Vaikuntha have a better standard of pleasure, so there is no need of sex

pleasure.

 

4.6.31

 

Whenever there is a nice atmosphere in the material world, immediately there

is an awakening of the sexual appetite in the minds of materialistic

persons. This tendency is present everywhere within this material world, not

only on this earth but in higher planetary systems as well. In complete

contrast with the influence of this atmosphere on the minds of the living

entities within the material world is the description of the spiritual

world. The women there are hundreds and thousands of times more beautiful

than the women here in this material world, and the spiritual atmosphere is

also many times better. Yet despite the pleasant atmosphere, the minds of

the denizens do not become agitated because in the spiritual world, the

Vaikuëöha planets, the spiritualistic minds of the inhabitants are so much

absorbed in the spiritual vibration of chanting the glories of the Lord that

such enjoyment could not be surpassed by any other enjoyment, even sex,

which is the culmination of all pleasure in the material world. In other

words, in the Vaikuëöha world, in spite of its better atmosphere and

facilities, there is no impetus for sex life. As stated in Bhagavad-gétä

(2.59), param dristva nivartate: the inhabitants are so spiritually

enlightened that in the presence of such spirituality, sex life is

insignificant.

 

SP lecture December 12 1975 SB 7.6.10

This world is going on, this material (world) is going on the principle of

sense gratification, pumsah striya mithuni-bhavam. Everyone is hankering

after sex life, man and woman. This is the beginning of material life. In

the Vaikuntha-loka there are thousands times beautiful women and thousand

times strong men (noise in background) (aside:) Where is this sound coming?

....but there is no sex desire. This is Vaikuntha life. Here in this material

world, as soon as there is strong man, as soon as there is beautiful woman,

then there is sex impulse. In the Vaikuntha world there is no such thing,

because they are so much absorbed in Krishna consciousness that sex life is

very insignificant. There is no sex life in the Vaikuntha realm. But in this

material world, the sex life is the basic principle of pleasure.