Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Hare Krishna Cultural Journal Update: Academia and ISKCON's Secularization March 30, 2005 ------ http://siddhanta.com/archives/culture/000240.html ------ Over at the [1]Volokh Conspiracy, in response to this bit of demographic information from a Washington Post article by Howard Kurtz The most left-leaning departments are English literature, philosophy, political science and religious studies, where at least 80 percent of the faculty say they are liberal and no more than 5 percent call themselves conservative, the study says. Law professor Todd Zywicki [2]asks: Is anyone else surprised that Religious studies is self-reported as one of the most liberal departments? I would have thought if conservatives were present anywhere, it would be in religious studies. Not us. Not by a long shot. In fact, because university religious studies departments are so liberal, and because so many religious groups (the Hare Krishnas included now, I guess) send their top people to get trained there, it is a likely explanation for why so many religious institutions have been busy making themselves into all those things which have become shibboleths for "liberalism". ISKCON is now riding the same wave of liberalism which has taken many a Christian denomination from obscurity to establishment but in the most self-defeating way. Like many other respectable, mainline denominations in western Christendom, the Hare Krishna movement has had its woeful share of child abuse scandals along with its attendant anti-traditionalist reforms, has had a flamboyant feminist revolution, has an emerging scriptural revisionist movement, and now has a very active gay liberation movement--replete with growing public support from some of ISKCON's higher-ups. As ISKCON has hastened to follow in the secular footsteps of its liberal, Christian, institutional counterparts, ISKCON now has a very real likelihood of undergoing internal conflicts like those of the Anglican Church, which is now in the throes of an historic schism on account of internal efforts to destigmatize homosexual behavior. In Protestant Christendom, this unraveling of Christianity happened through mainline denominations trying to accommodate the mores of secular society. With regard to religion in America, Clifford Orwin explains how mainline Protestant denominations became mainline and how they consequently experienced varying degrees of secularization. Since the late nineteenth century and the emergence of the Social Gospel, the typical response of the mainline churches to the challenge of secularism has been to capitulate to it. Every one of these churches has been advancing (or retreating) from Christian orthodoxy down the road of secular progressivism. They have not done so without hesitation or confusion, which have sometimes brought them to the brink of schism. Nonetheless, within each of these churches, certainly at the national level, progressivism has eventually prevailed across the board. (Clifford Orwin. "The Unraveling of Christianity in America." Spring 2004. The Public Interest, Number 155. page 22 - 23) Although a way of life and its corresponding way of thinking is tightly coupled, this fact is not always obvious. It is unlikely the earlier fathers of these denominations, who embraced the Social Gospel, understood the consequences of accommodating with the secular way of life. Their thinking was that men, not God, were the chief actors in the social sphere. If in the affairs of men God had a role at all, it was through men, not among them or with them. With other and presumably better things to do, God left the affairs of men to men. They believed that the social and the spiritual spheres, though both important, were fundamentally separate. Adjustments in one sphere were not expected to create maladjustment in the other. But behind a way of life there is necessarily a way of thinking that legitimates it as something moral, or good, and allows the evil, or bad ways to be recognized for what they are. In essence, the Social Gospel was secular ideology sugar-coated with good intentions. Thus, in order to become accomplished in the tenets of the Social Gospel, the top religious men had to become well versed in its underlying secular creed. George Marsden notes this victory of the secular over the ecclesiastical within the Church: During the 1960s a number of well-funded studies examined what church-relatedness meant for a college.25 As David Riesman and Christopher Jencks commented in 1968, "Organizations like the National Council of Churches as well as individual denominations are constantly commissioning investigations aimed at defining a unique mission for those colleges which remain Protestant, but the very idea that such questions require research is a tribute to the triumph of academic over clerical values." They concluded "Very few Protestant colleges admit that the substance of what they teach is influenced by ideological considerations." 26 By the end of the 1960s, mainline Protestantism's own studies were saying little more than that their colleges should learn from the universities.27 (George M. Marsden. The Soul of the American University, From Protestant Establishment to Established Nonbelief. Oxford University Press, New York, 1994. Page 416) Since the university now holds the keys to higher understanding--even for overtly religious organizations--it is the views and doctrines that are taught in the secular divinity schools and religious studies departments that eventually become established doctrine for religious institutions that send their top people to the universities. Apart from business and the military, contemporary American elites in categories such as the media, labor, religion, law and bureaucracy were almost twice to more than three times as liberal as the public as a whole, according to a 1980s survey. Another survey similarly found that on moral issues elites are "consistently more liberal" than rank-and-file Americans.14 Governmental, nonprofit and communications elites in particular are overwhelmingly liberal in their outlooks. So also are academics. The radical students of the 1960s have become tenured professors, particularly in elite institutions. As Stanley Rothman observes, "Social science faculties at elite universities are overwhelmingly liberal and cosmopolitan or on the Left. Almost any form of civic loyalty or patriotism is considered reactionary."15 Liberalism tends to go with irreligiosity as well. In a 1969 study by Lipset and Ladd, at least 71 percent of Jewish, Catholic and Protestant academics who identified themselves as liberal also identified themselves as being "basically opposed to religion." (Samuel Huntington. "Dead Souls" The National Interest, Number 75, Spring 2004. Page 12.) In trying to better understand the future of ISKCON's tryst with academia, we should keep these questions in mind: * How secular are university religious studies departments? Very. * How secular can religious institutions become when they send their top people to get trained at universities? Very. * Can ISKCON compromise itself to the same extent as those of mainline Protestant denominations like the Anglican Church? Yes. While it is a categorical fact that anything, including a university education, can be used to serve Krishna, it is also a categorical fact that association with faithless persons and hearing from them can destroy one's faith--janah sangah. The popularity and influence of secular education among ISKCON's members, especially among its elites, could explain in part the emergence and support for feminism within ISKCON, the growing advocacy of scriptural revisionism by some of ISKCON's more senior members, and the advent of a gay-rights movement that has growing support among ISKCON's top leadership. These events are not possibilities, they are historic facts of ISKCON. Within other religious institutions, these same facts have stood as milestones that have marked the paths of progressive secularization--paths which eventually and at some point irrevocably lead to a kind of agnosticism. It is no longer an unthinkable proposition that due the influence of university education, ISKCON could now be meandering down these same paths and heading toward permanent insignificance. References 1. http://volokh.com/ 2. http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_03_27-2005_04_02.shtml#1112111400 -- Powered by Movable Type Version 2.661 http://www.movabletype.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 In a message dated 3/31/2005 12:50:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, info (AT) siddhanta (DOT) com writes: Hare Krishna Cultural Journal Update: Academia and ISKCON's Secularization Who are the authors of _info (AT) siddhanta (DOT) com_ (info (AT) siddhanta (DOT) com) and the "Hare Krishna Cultural Journal"? Please. yhs Ranjit das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 > > In a message dated 3/31/2005 12:50:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > info (AT) siddhanta (DOT) com writes: > > Hare Krishna Cultural Journal Update: Academia and ISKCON's > Secularization > > > > Who are the authors of _info (AT) siddhanta (DOT) com_ (info (AT) siddhanta (DOT) com) > and the "Hare Krishna Cultural Journal"? Please. > yhs > Ranjit das Krishna Kirti Prabhu (HDG), an American devotee who joined ISKCON at Ireland back during 1987, runs HKCJ, which is a "blog". Which you must know is a popular, new, "internet genre". He resides at Albuquerque, New Mexico, where he conducts preaching programs in his home, on Sundays and festival days. There are a variety of devotees who have written "guest blogs" there, including myself and another godbrother, Paradhyeya Prabhu, who was here in India for many years. He was TP of Madras back in 1981 and later on at Surat in the late 80s. Now he resides at Sacremento, Cal., in the USA. das, Basu Ghosh Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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