Does anyone???: shivambu chikitsa

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SrI SrI Guru Gaurangau Jayatah

 

Camp: Nizhiny Novgorod, RF

DaNDavats Dear all. Jaya Krishna BalarAma!

Please accept my respectful obeisances. All Glories to Sreela PrabhupAda..

 

MMM Thank you for your interesting points.

 

> I am not in theory opposed to urine therapy. I do have some concerns.

you're not alone either...everyone's a bit concerned no doubt...before they

read up on it all. shouldn't we also be concerned that devotees (who are

rare souls) are literally neglecting to maintain the vehicle that they use

to preach to conditioned souls?

 

> I stipulate for the sake of argument that urine theory has been beneficial

> in the past, and that it can be shown anecdotally to have some short term

> benefits today.

if you read the books that mention the cases of those who's long term

diseases were cured by "siva"= curing, "abhu" =water.

they all continued the therapy after their diseases abated.

 

they became long term advocates.

> Do you know that it is possible to now find measurable levels of

> manufactured antibiotics (nonexistent in previous ages) in streams and

> rivers? I would be concerned that if someone was ingesting low levels of

> antibiotics from drinking water or from food cooked in water, that there

> may be some danger of accumulating those antibiotics in the body by

> recyling them when drinking urine. Symbiotic effects of combinations of

> antibiotics as a rule haven't been tested.

HeY! wheatgrass juice chelates out heavy metals, those that follow multiple

therapies, (magnetized water, urine, accupressure etc), act to try to adjust

those malific aspects of modern contamination.

 

when some disciples, objected that store bought milk contained traces of

cod-liver oil in it, yet SP commented, "what to do-you can still offer it to

Krsna".

 

> The same concern would apply to pesticides and/or heavy metals in

> foodstuffs. Previously, all food was organic, it is only within the last

> 100 years this has ceased to be a general truth. Pesticides and heavy

> metals are concentrated in milk. Would drinking urine further concentrate

> these within the human body? Again, many of these are in theory safe in

> low volumes but in higher concentrations are known to be carcinogenic. And

> synergistic effects are NOT studied.

the problem is that since this therapy is free, cheap, there is no financial

gain for the pharmaceutical industries to pump money into research.

 

> These are issues that history of urine consumption would be unable to

> address.

 

this doubt doesnt "throw the baby out with the bathwater" the benefits of

UT-far outweigh ' a few traces of pesticides etc, (which by the way we can't

stop from entering our lungs too easily).

 

TridaNDi BhikSu, Bhakti Visrambha MAdhava

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> this doubt doesnt "throw the baby out with the bathwater" the benefits of

> UT-far outweigh ' a few traces of pesticides etc, (which by the way we

can't

> stop from entering our lungs too easily).

>

> TridaNDi BhikSu, Bhakti Visrambha MAdhava

>

 

If i don't survive today, how to survive next month is a moot point,

understood.

 

Think of the wells in Bengal thing - digging a lot of wells had short term

benefits in reducing surface water borne diseases, but we are now faced with

a situation where an entire population has chronic arsenic poisoning.

 

As a rule, I am always leery of panacea solutions, to either health,

societal, or spiritual issues.

 

Examples :

 

If you just chant your rounds every day and go to mangala arotik, all your

mundane problems with resolve themselves.

 

If ISKCON just adapted the rittvik position, all the problems in ISKCON

would disappear.

 

If ISKCON would just let anybody be a guru, all the current problems would

disappear.

 

If we just build this big temple, everyone will love us.