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Dear Bhakti Visrambha Madhava Swami,

 

Hare Krsna. Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah. My pranams

to you. I hope you are well.

 

Do you have the exact quotes that were given (I

believe by you before), concerning what Lord Siva said

in this regard? (And the source of those quotes?)

 

With thanks,

 

Mahavegavati Dasi

Hare Krsna

 

--- Bhakti Visrambha Madhava Swami

<Bhakti.Visrambha.Madhava.Swami (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote:

 

> SrI SrI Guru Gaurangau Jayatah

>

> Camp: Nizhiny Novgorod, RF

> DaNDavats Dear mahavegavati dasi and others. Jaya

> Krishna BalarAma!

> Please accept my respectful obeisances. All Glories

> to Sreela PrabhupAda..

>

> Thank you for your letter. I happy you have doubts

> and are eager to address

> them. I wish you a good health and happy devotional

> sadhana. If your health

> is good, then we should have more time for chanting,

> reading SB etc and the

> preaching should increase as a result of good

> health.

>

> > Hare Krsna prabhus. All glories to Srila

> Prabhupada.

> > PAMFO I hope all is well.

> >

> > Does anyone here have the original scriptural

> quotes

> > concerning this drinking of one's own urine?

>

> yes. after a lot of research Feb 18th, 2005, in

> Mumbai. bharatiya pustak

> bhandar, I obtained Navneet publications book, (they

> publish school books

> for gujarati children) "auto urine therapy" which

> has the original

> devanagari sanskrit of the complete 107 sloka Damar

> tantra, (siva Parvati

> samvada) about this health procedure.

>

> now there are vaisnava tantras (instructions) and

> shaiva tantras.

>

> I have about 5 books detailing this procedure, and

> history of how thru the

> centuries, people have benefited by it's adoption. I

> have scanned those

> books but they are not yet recognized up for Ms word

> as It takes a lot of

> time to get this done.

>

> there are other problems to wide distribution to the

> public so they can make

> their own free choices /options.

>

> damar tantra's slokas are in devanagari and In Hindi

> there is no (OCR)

> software (I asked last year) to recognise such

> scanned pages.

>

> In Vrndavana, in my library, have so many

> naturopathic books on how to

> treat diseases, by village therapies, and by

> diet-foods-herbs. I intend on

> eventually putting all of them in a folio type

> searchable database, so that

> devotees- anyone can find out information on a

> particular malady and cure

> options by a few key stokes.

>

> everyone is dying off, last year we lost Sridhar

> swami and Mulaprakriti dasi

> to cancer.

>

> even our dear HH BTS are leaving gradually from it,

> and others after

> investing so many thousands of $. He's a big guru,

> he's got supporters who

> financed it.

>

> I'm thinking of all the ABC's like you and me, who

> don't have the big $'s

> for heavy pharmacutical/ ayurvedic products.

> shouldn't we have some cheap

> free options?

>

> what's smart? spending thousands of $, and losing

> the battle, or adopting a

> cheap free daily maintainance offered by the best of

> vaisnava's who's a

> mahajana at that..so we try not to get it, of course

> there are no guarantees

> in life. but why neglect things?

>

> is reiki transcendental? is it in sastra? but you

> have GBC's who are reiki

> masters! was Prabhupada into reiki? No, but did that

> stop GBC's from

> accepting it as a health tool. no.

>

> are they to be condemned for adopting it?

> did they have to resign from the GBC for adopting

> their preferences for

> health?

>

> they show by their example...health choices are

> personal they don't have to

> fall under GBC rules.

>

> you and everyone else in Iskcon are free to make

> your choices. Ayurvedic

> (and urine therapy is there in ayurvedic texts as

> well according to Dr. sk

> sharma's -miracles of urine therapy).

>

> buddhist medicine, acupressure, acupuncture, jain

> medicine, water therapy.

> breathairians, fastings, sun gazing.

>

> I've already made mine 3 months ago, and yes I'm

> getting better.

>

> like I explained to you prabhu, everyone has to be

> silent and private with

> their own health therapies.

>

> it's for you personally if you choose. others (who

> haven't read up on it,

> and even some who have read only a small amount, but

> still have negative

> doubts may criticize it, we should respect their

> preferences, (let them go

> ahead -pay $$$ for maintainance they neglected to

> perform when younger.

>

> all due to a pessimistic/ conditioned- misinformed

> lack of understanding it

> all. I'd rather try to educate the mass of devotees

> to be careful to adopt

> maintanance therapies in their lifestyles as long as

> the sadhana is not

> stopped.

>

> of course we must be sensitive to others so we don't

> risk be alienated or

> sidelined by the devotees we love.

>

> I have been faithfully drinking a few times a day

> for 3 months and

> performing urine message daily for 1 month now. I

> now have cow urine message

> oil, I must say my health has improved a lot:

>

> (by washing my eyes 3-4 times a day) ears too.

>

> (1) eyes are clearer, getting stronger. I hope the

> tests will prove later on

> in one year if my vision is totally normal and no

> need of specs like I have

> now.

> (2) my nasal passages are better,

> (3) skin feels amazingly soft,

> (4) ugly patch of discoloured skin (that some feared

> could become cancerous)

> has gotten better.

> (5)vericose veins in my legs have improved,

> practically the vericose veins

> tension has stopped -well on the way to 100% cure.

> (6) the hard hemoroids on my rear end have

> disappeared too.

> (7) my sikha hair is soft.

> (8) energy has increased,

> (9) vitality has increased

> (10) memory and determination is increasing as well.

> (11) slight ringing in my ears has stopped.

>

> naturally, for Vaisnava's, esp those dwelling in

> Mayapura-vrndavana we

> should give preference to cow urine and medicine

> from it.

>

> As most city dwellers no longer keep cows, (and I as

> a traveling itinerant

> mendicant) don't have one to come with me on the

> planes-trains-buses).

>

> everyone has to make his or her own choices for the

> maintainance of the

> health, (which is done for Jivasya tattva jijnasa SB

> 1.1.10).

>

> I am personally taking advantege of this cheap

> (free) therapy to maintain my

> health. and whenever possible I substitute cow urine

> for my own as it is

> better- no doubt.

>

> every elderly person fights with health issues after

> 35 years of age. How

> each one responds to it depends on their own

> researches into it.

>

> I've got a poser...Siva's a mahajana, and no doubt

> everything He says in SB

> is gold right? but when He advices one to drink

> one's own urine (mixed with

> different ayurvedic herbs for different months) are

> we to think He's now

> lost His "sivatwa"?

>

> He's now no longer a mahajana? that would be

> tantamount to ardha kukuti

> nyaya, half a hen philosophy.

>

> Is it wise for Iskcon devotees (who are by nature

> poor due to spending

> considerable amount of time chanting, reading SB,

> serving Krsna) to spend

> $30000 + for chemotherapy, or expensive allopathic,

> ayurvedic drugs and

> waste so much sadhana, time procuring the same?

>

> > I'm asking since one guru/sannyasi has said the

> Vedas

> > say absolutely no, and I wanted to send to him

> what

> > was previously sent out.

> >

> > Also, what is Jayapataka Maharaj's email address

> to

> > get this (these) reference(s).

> He's on Pamho.

>

> TridaNDi BhikSu, Bhakti Visrambha MAdhava

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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