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Devotee (4): What I meant to say is that the directors of these religions

like the Pope and so many things, they themselves have committed so many

abominable activities that people have said, "Well, why should we stay with

religion? These religious leaders themselves are eating meat, they have

prostitution, they are cheating the people, taking their money, living very

nicely..."

Prabhupäda: But that is not religion. Why you accept the Pope as religious?

Devotee (4): No, we don't accept...

Prabhupäda: You reject. You reject. Come to us. Why do you accept these

rascals as religious? That is your fault. Why should you stick to them? They

cannot teach what is real religion, so let us give you.

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