unless death prefered resort to cow urine or even shivambu chikitsa.

[Guest guest]

SrI SrI Guru Gaurangau Jayatah

 

Camp: Kurdzhinovo, RF

DaNDavats Dear Mahavegavati dasi and others. Jaya Krishna BalarAma!

Please accept my respectful obeisances. All Glories to Sreela PrabhupAda..

 

my point is that because Iskcon devotees are so rare to be seen, why allow

the loss to ill health and bad or neglectful care.

 

as a service to Krsna and Guru for the preaching efforts, we must maintain

our health by various alternative treatments, cow urine or even human, as

long as it *really* helps our service. You may ask me "what kind of example

are you giving us?"

 

I reply, "what example do you want from me, do you want me to live strong to

travel and preach for the rest of my life, or should I *not accept* cow

urine, whategrass, magnet therapy, accumpuncture, simple exercises, or even

upto Human urine therapy etc,

 

and prefer to drop out of active preaching due to invalidity like so many

50+ senior sannyasi's or devotees are now doing?

 

they are retiring from active GBC and sannyasi traveling responsibilities.

 

is that fair to the mass of devotees who need ministering to?

 

but what can be done if they are genuinely invalid?

 

would you rather have me trying to maintain health by many means some

controversial or do you want a so called "rigid" principled invalid sannyasi

who stops traveling and retired to the dhamas?

 

what is the use of invalidity due to traveling and preaching? sannyasi's and

traveling brahmacaries submit themselves to great vatic disturbances by

traveling. such traveling causes hardening of the arteries and other things

by flying 31000 feet often in planes etc.

 

if the end is to maintain the health of the body so that we may live longer

to study SB and preach with full senses and health-- to serve KRsna and Guru

by propagating Krsna consciousness by maintainance of preventive alternative

medicine. the ends justifies the means...

 

one has to choose if he'll adopt one procedure or not.

 

like in Antya 10.95-98. govinda says: "I have to serve, even if I commit

offenses to serve. I'll accept, but not even faintest aparaddha's for my

senses."

 

it is delicate, running the risk of opposing one's gurus instructions in

order to serve the guru with full health?

 

risky, yet not impossible.

 

consider the guru who ordered not to distribute mantra to everyone on the

penalty of going to hell, yet the disciple disobeyed that, for the higher

principle of showing mercy, and the guru later approved.

 

it is a fine line of delicate discrimination.

 

one devotee will reject such compromises, keeping rigid principles to their

death. And no doubt that is glorious too.

 

another will privately compromise that on health principles for the

longevity in order to serve and preach SB longer..

 

example?

 

in Dec 13, 1970 in Indore

 

And Bernard Shaw, I think, he wrote one book, "You Are What You Eat."

Haˆsad™ta: George Bernard Shaw.

Prabhup€da: Yes. So they are becoming animals, animals eating animal flesh.

Bernard Shaw was vegetarian.

Devotee (6): Except he would take liver for his health.

Prabhup€da: Liver?

Devotee (6): Yes. He used to take some liver periodically for his health.

Prabhup€da: Medicine. There are many liver extract preparations.

Devotee (6): No, not liver extract. Maybe. I don't know exactly. But I know

he used to take liver. Not cod liver oil or anything.

Prabhup€da: No, liver extract preparations there are many medicines. For

anemic patient liver extract is recommended.

Devotee (6): That's all right for us to take?

Prabhup€da: No, but if you are going to die, then you can take.

Yamun€: Chant Hare KŠa.

Prabhup€da: When required for such trouble, if you are going to die, then,

to save yourself, you can.

Devotee (6): If that liver can be eaten raw...

Prabhup€da: If you are going to die. Not ordinary. If it is clear that

without liver extract you shall die, you can take.

Devotee (4): You cannot tell. You can't tell until you actually (indistinct)

Prabhup€da: Because when there is question of death it is recommended you

may take anything to save your life.

Yamun€: Chant Hare KŠa.

Prabhup€da: But those who are rigid, they are prepared to die even.

Yamun€: VaiŠavas, wouldn't they just chant?

Prabhup€da: Their proposal is "Death is sure today or tomorrow, so why shall

I change my principles? Death will take place even if I live for ten years

more, and what is the benefit? Why shall I change my principles? It is not

that by taking that medicine or liver extract I shall be amara, immortal."

That is not possible. If somebody gives some medicine that one can make

himself immortal, that is another thing. Nobody is going to be immortal. Why

he should be afraid of death? Death will take place. "As sure as death." So

today, or tomorrow, or hundred years after. So if one moment is utilized for

KŠa consciousness, that makes life successful. Why shall I live for

hundred years, waste my time? One moment is sufficient for living."

 

TridaNDi BhikSu, Bhakti Visrambha MAdhava