Is this a case of The Dogs Will Bark, But the Caravan Will Pass?

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My Dear ISKCON Devotees,

Please accept my humble obeisances.

All glories to His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada.

 

The whole ritvik-IRM argument is a classical case of:

"eka-desanvaya uttara-slokartha-tatparya-virodhah,"

a contradictory interpretation that creates illogical

conflict with other instructions spoken in the same context.

 

They take the July 9 letter completely out of context.

 

Srila Prabhupada told us on April 6, 1975 in Mayapur that

that ISKCON would have ten million initiating gurus. And

they want to tell us that Prabhpuada was wrong.

 

Is this a case of "the dogs will bark but the caravan will pass?"

 

Hoping this meets you in good health,

Always your humble servant,

Sankarshan Das Adhikari

 

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Jahnu (Dvipa das JPS) (Mayapur - IN) [Jahnu (AT) pamho (DOT) net]

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:37 AM

Haridasa Thakura (das) ACBSP (Midrand - SA)

Cc: Initiations in ISKCON

Continuing the disciplic succession

 

I'd like to second that. That rivikism has even been discussed in ISKCON as

if it had some merit is astounding in and of itself. As far as I am

concerned the concept is nothing but disguised atheism and it should be

treated as such.

 

ys, jdd

 

> All glories to SRILA PRABHUPADA!

> Disciple means discipline. How can the neophyte disciple have such a

> connection in the heart to perceive the important instructions that

> are necessary for actual spiritual advancement? Actually, this ritvik

> thing is nothing more than spiritual anarchy, a scapegoat for those

> that cannot take discipline, for those that desire recognition and for

> those that

> (unfortunately) are foolish and insincere. A guru has to chastise (and

> praise) the disciple (sometimes) for his/her own good otherwise mental

> speculation is the order of the day. The ritvik idea put forward by

> the mental speculators is flawed since it does not afford total

> surrender to ones diksha guru. There is the opt out clause whereby one

> can whimsically run to Prabhupada on the pretext of taking shelter,

> but in reality one is avoiding the very shelter that Prabhupada's has

> given by ignoring his instructions on this matter.

> We should ignore these fools, we should not waste our time. Instead we

> should concentrate our efforts on becoming more Krishna conscious and

> to become pure devotees.

> Anyway, when the desert caravan passes a village and the dogs bark,

> who takes notice? The dogs very boldly bark, but after all, they are

> just dogs, it is their nature to be like that. We can have sympathy

> with their covered dog like situation but the truth is 'you get what

> you desire and what you deserve'. We chant Hare Krishna for their

> benefit, and then we move on. I felt inspired to say something.

> Hare Krishna!