Guest guest Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada who created a house where we can all live peacefully together. I agree with Gauridas prabhu. It seems to me that the respectful and humble position is to ask a vaishnavi what title she prefers. There is definately a history with the use of the word Mother. It came into use in North America in the mid 70's. Until then everyone was prabhu. In the mid 70's there was a real shift in the relationship between men and women in ISKCON. The family feeling was replaced with an aggressive and hurtful campaign to denigrate and humiliate women and householders.The Radha Damodhara party and it's leaders were the main instigators. In my temple at one point, women were given 48 hours to leave the temple. We rented an apartment down the street where we held our own classes and cooked our own prasadam. Of course, we were expected to go daily on "the pick" to support the temple and to pay our rent and expenses. We did Deity worship behind closed doors and cooked the offerings without being seen ( as much as possible ). We felt guilty and offensive in our bodies. We felt like a burden to Srila Prabhupada but at the same time we were "hooked" on being devotees. It was a very uncomfortable position. The titles women were given in those days were so offensive I won't write them here... referring mainly to bodily parts.. The term Mother was definately derogatory. I would sometimes have to go to the temple authorities to advocate for the women. I remember the feeling as the men would look down at the floor and loudly say Yes MOTHER! Marriages broke up as men tried to "save their devotional lives", devotees left ISKCON, children were neglected and abandonned by their fathers. The situation was very bad for everyone... including the men, many of whom lost sight of the devotional qualities of humility and compassion. Not many present-day devotees lived through these times, but the sad thing is that that initial family feeling never returned to ISKCON. The discrimination against women and householders has remained although it is certainly far more subtle. So please do not jump to the conclusion that women who do not like to be addressed as Mother are feminists or just plain puffed up. There are many reasons why this title strikes saddness in the hearts of many men, women and 2nd generation devotees. Your servant, Praharana dd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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