Avedic Fallacy

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The point of not initiating in the spiritual master's physical presence was

made in the 1975 Mayapur lecture referred to below, and also the point of

initiating after the physical departure was made. Srila Prabhupada said

that

he gave us everything in his books. The so-called ritvik system is nowhere

mentioned in Srila Prabhupada's books. The system of the one is now the

disciple

becoming the next spiritual master is mentioned in his books.

 

Our ritvik friends are guiltly of the logical fault know as:

 

eka-desanvaya uttara-slokartha-tatparya-virodhah,

a contradictory interpretation that creates illogical conflict with other

instructions

given in the same context.

 

They take the July 9 letter totally out of context with the hundreds and

thousands

other instructions given by Srila Prabhupada.

 

What they are doing is against the Vedic principles. It it avedic.

 

 

 

 

failure (AT) pamho (DOT) net [failure (AT) pamho (DOT) net] On Behalf Of Madhusudana

Dasa

Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:31 AM

Sankarsana (das) ACBSP (Austin, Texas - USA)

RE: Continuing the disciplic succession

 

--- "Sankarsana (das) ACBSP (Austin, Texas - USA)"

<Sankarsana.ACBSP (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote:

 

> In Mayapur Srila Prabhupada predicted that ISKCON would have ten

> million initiating gurus (acharyas). These poor ritvik friends think

> that Srila Prabhupada was wrong. I pity them.

 

 

 

"And to become acarya is not very difficult. [...] amara ajnaya guru hana

tara ei desa, yare dekha tare kaha krsna-upadesa: "By following My order,

you become guru." [...] Then, in future... suppose you have got now ten

thousand. We shall expand to hundred thousand.

That is required. Then hundred thousand to million;

and million to ten million." (SP C.c. Lecture,

6/4/75, Mayapur)

 

It has already been demonstrated that Lord Caitanya's instruction was for

everyone to preach vigorously, make lots of Krsna conscious followers, but

not to take disciples. This point is re-inforced where Srila Prabhupada

encourages his disciples to make many more devotees. It is significant that

Srila Prabhupada states "suppose you have got now ten thousand..."

(i.e. in Srila Prabhupada's presence). From this, it is clear he is talking

about Krsna conscious followers, not 'disciples of his disciples', since the

main point of the lecture was that they should not initiate in his presence.

The implication being then, that just as at that time there may have been

around ten thousand followers of Krsna Consciousness, so in the future

millions more would be added. The ritvik system was to ensure that when

these followers became suitably qualified for initiation, they could receive

diksa from Srila Prabhupada, just as they could when he gave the above

lecture. ("The Final Order",

p12-15)

 

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