What's it going to be?

August 20, 2005

Ramakant prabhu.

Pamho. AgtSP.

I posted this quote

1]

>"Yes. I shall choose some guru. I shall say, "Now

> you become acarya. You become authorized." I am

>waiting for that. You become all acarya. I retire

> completely. But the training must be complete."

as further proof to the logical arguments, showing

that the 2 quotes that you, Ramakant gave previously.

Here they are ......

2]"Nectar of Devotion, chapter 7:

The six agents of sense gratification are the tongue,

the genitals, the belly, anger, the mind and words.

Anyone who has practiced controlling these six is

permitted to make disciples all over the world."

This is a statement which outlines the qualifications

of the diksa guru and the principle that such a

qualified person is permitted to make disciples. In

other words Srila Prabhupada is hereby outlining the

principle. Since there is NO mention of authorization

in the quote. Just like the government states the

principle that when you reach the age of 17 you are

permitted to drive a car.... BUT you have to gain

authorization by passing your driving test. Thus

merely stating the principle is NOT in itself the

authorization.

3] "Nectar of Instruction, verse 1:

A sober person who can tolerate the urge to speak, the

mind's demands, the actions of anger and the urges of

the tongue, belly and genitals is

qualified to make disciples all over the world."

This quote is as before stating the principle, that if

someone can do such & such then he is qualified to

make disciples. Again there is no mention here of

authorization to do so. This quote states

qualification NOT authorization.

This could not be the authorization from Srila

Prabhupada, since Srila Prabhupada in quote 1] says

"You become authorized" this is prefixed with the

words, "I shall" all indicating a state of being yet

to come. If the authorization was already given in

quotes 2] & 3] as you claim. Then quote 1] makes NO

sense.

Therefore we seem to be facing a choice here,

Either

a] Srila Prabhupada forgot that he had already given

the authorization as in quotes 2] & 3]