Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 True, the Vedic kings went hunting but the animals they killed still came to torture them in their subtle bodies as they went on their way to Yamaraj. The animals have their rights too in the end. Read about King Puranjana in SB 4 pt 4. These kings had to undergo great penances at the end of their lives for all the sins they had to commit for being a king . We are not able to practice these penances and in this age the process is Harinama sankirtan and Lord Chaitanya and the 6 Goswamis didnt teach us to hunt animals but that a devotee is unwilling to kill even an ant. I am not at all a pacifist and butchers and meat manufacturers should be punished with death. and one should fight to defend one's cows and family from agressors. but again Srila Prabhupada and Lord Chaitanya have taught us that in this age we must chant the holy name and preach more tolerant than the tree and humbler than a blade of grass.There is no other way. One has to be vegetarian to become a devotee and eat prasad. The forests have all but diappeared over here and the bigs cats are nearly poached to extinction. All forest animals are on the endangered species list so hunting is no more allowed. ys Labangalatika dasi - mark john <gopanandadasa (AT) (DOT) co.uk> Noma Petroff <npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu>; Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net> Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:37 AM Re: Circumstances under which the government can arrange for eatingof cow flesh > I entirely agree with Syamasudar and HKDD on bringing this to light. It is > often seen that devotees are vegetarian before Krsnatarian, or pacifists before > the need to kill for the better of the whole. In Krsna´s life he was seen to be > with the Pandavas who went hunting, killing hundreds of animals, and this is to > be praised. > Why? One may ask. > > I have come to conclude that in a fructive ecology, sparse woodlands mixed with > grain fields near towns, cities and large villages become dense woodlands the > further from civilisation. Further still such dense woodlands turn into high > forest, wild in all its abundance. The cow and domesticated grazers are the > buffers maintained between the wild forest and the dense and sparse woodlands, > which maintains the agroecology of human-instigated plagioclimax ecology, that > of silvopastoral grasslands. The wild forest in its natural abundance will > produce excess, just as the human agroecology will. So those on the outskirts > of the civilization would plead to the ruling classes to help them rid the > excess from the high forest that was endagering their lifestock and their very > lives. Thus periodically the ruling class would mount to hunt game, reffering > to the game of war; thus killing two birds with one stone - ridding the wild > forest of a dangerous excess and training for war. > > Also in the bible, it is seen that God gives to Noah the right to eat animals > after the devastation of the flood. Later God states that he is sick of their > burnt offerings for now there was no need to offer meat, but still the Jews > carried on this practice even unto today. > > Gopananda dasa > > > > > Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail > > > ----------------------- > To from this mailing list, send an email to: > Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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