Guest guest Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 > Nityananda, Gadadhara, or Srivas Pandit? Do you seriously think that being > a devotee for 30 years qualifies one to speak about these topics, when the > Panca-tattva didn't? What a bizarre concept. > I don't know. Thats why I'm asking. Maybe Caitanya Mahaprabhu had some other specific reason to not discuss rasa-lila with Panca tattva members. Maybe some historical/sociological reasons. After all Srila Prabhupada described rasa-lila to us in his writings. Srila Prabhupada says, that guru knows about Krsna, he is krsna-tattva-vit. Also he says that "We must approach the tattva-vit, one who knows the truth; through them, through him, we should try to understand Krsna." So, I'd say, if ones guru speaks about this subjects, then it must be ok, isn't it? Still, if it is not ok, what to do, if someone starts explaining rasa-lila on SB lecture. Try to understand the best we can? Run out of class? Block our ears? Scream Hare Krsna in our mind? Ask him to stop? Any suggestions? ys gnd ==================================== So guru means krsna-tattva-vit, one who knows about Krsna. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu, He explains about Krsna. Krsna explains about Himself. The Gosvamis, Sad Gosvamis, they are explaining about Krsna. And in their parampara system, the acaryas, they are also explaining Krsna. So if we do not go through these tattva-vits, then we'll misunderstand Krsna. Therefore Narottama dasa Thakura says, rupa-raghunatha-pade hoibe akuti, kabe hama bujhabo se jugala-piriti. All of a sudden, if you become a knower of the jugala-piriti, love of Radha-Krsna, then there is chance of becoming fallen. There is chance. So we should... Vadanti tat tattva-vidas tattvam [sB 1.2.11]. We must approach the tattva-vit, one who knows the truth; through them, through him, we should try to understand Krsna. Not simply by Therefore they're ma..., committing so many mistakes. Even scholars like Dr. Radhakrishnan and others, they're committing so many mistakes. Because they do not go through tattva-vit. There are so many political leaders who are commenting on Krsna's book without knowing Krsna, without any knowledge of Krsna. Just see their impudency. Without knowing Krsna, they want to make trade with Krsna. That is not very good. You cannot make trade commodity, Krsna as trade commodity. You cannot handle Krsna by your whims. Let you be handled by the Krsna's whims. Then you'll be successful. Then... My Guru Maharaja used to say that "Don't try to see Krsna; do something so that Krsna may see you." That is wanted. If Krsna, if you can draw little attention of Krsna, yat karunya-kataksa-vaibhavavatam, kataksa-vaibhavavatam... Prabodhananda Sarasvati says... If you somehow or other you can draw little attention of Krsna, your life is successful. Immediately. And how you can draw? Bhaktya mam abhijanati [bg. 18.55]. Simply by serving Krsna. Take service, take to service of Krsna, as it is ordered by the spiritual master. Because spiritual master is the representative of Krsna. We cannot approach Krsna directly. Yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasadah **. If you have bona fide spiritual master, representative of Krsna, it is also not very difficult. Everyone can become representative of Krsna. How? If you simply carry the message of Krsna without any adulteration. That's all. Just like Caitanya Mahaprabhu said, amara ajnaya guru hana [Cc. Madhya 7.128], "You become a spiritual master under My order." So if you carry out the order of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Krsna, then you become guru. Amara ajnaya guru hana. Unfortunately, we do not wish to carry out order of the acaryas. We manufacture our own ways. We have got practical experience how a great institution was lost by whimsical ways. Without carrying out the order of the spiritual master, they manufactured something and the whole thing was lost. Therefore Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura stresses very much on the words of the spiritual master. Vyavasayatmika buddhir ekeha kuru-nandana [bg. 2.41]. If you stick to the order of spiritual master, then, without caring for your own convenience or inconvenience, then you become perfect. yasya deve para bhaktir yatha deve tatha gurau tasyaite kathita hy arthah prakasante mahatmanah [sU 6.23] This is the confirmation of all authorities. We have to carry out very faithfully the order of the bona fide representative of Krsna. Then our life is successful. Then we can understand Krsna in truth. Vadanti tat tattva-vidas tattvam [sB 1.2.11]. We have to hear from the tattva-vit, not from the so-called scholars and politicians. No. One who knows the truth, you have to hear from him. And if you stick to that principle, then you understand everything very clearly. Thank you very much. (end) >>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.11 -- Vrndavana, October 22, 1972 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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