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I was thinking a bit about the below presented point, that "unnecessary

sporting" indicates, that there is also "legitimate sporting". If this is to

be true, then Srila Prabhupada must have reffered to sports in a positive

way too. At least few times he would mention, that sports are good.

 

Interestingly, I cannot seem to find any statements from Srila Prabhupada in

support of sports. So it is clear to me, that while referring to "idle

sports", Srila Prabhupada is not referring to just one part of sports, but

is rather telling us, that all sports are idle and unnecessary, and a waste

of time and energy.

 

Am I correct in my understanding. Can somebody please correct me, if I'm

wrong?

 

ys Giri-nayaka das

 

> > It is interesting that Srila Prabhupada generally refers here to

> > "unnecessary sporting" or " idle sports." This would appear to indicate

> > that there are legitimate sports such as those which promote good

> > health, agility, build team spirit, etc. or even "letting off steam." It

> > seems to me that competitive sports in which the competitors are deeply

> > invested in the result are especially to be avoided.

>

> It could also be that that the adjectives used are simply to underline

> that sports are by nature unnecessary or idle in the sense of wasting

> time.

>

> At least once Srila Prabhupada encouraged devotees to swim in the sea (see

> Srila Prabhupada-lilamrta ch. 38). He also told Peter Burwash to continue

> his successful career as a tennis professional and to preach within it.

> But overall his general instruction that devotees not engage in sports is

> repeated and emphatic. Sports such as volleyball are clearly a recent

> introduction in ISKCON, not given to us by Srila Prabhupada as part of the

> Krishna conscious life.

>

> Sport may be good for health, although may be dangerous also. Sports

> injuries are common. However, even if good for health, that is not in

> itself reason to engage in sports. Garlic and wine (in moderation) are

> also reputed to be good for health, and fish is good for the brain (said

> Srila Prabhupada). But all these items are banned for devotees.

>

> Let's all do more kirtana.

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> I was thinking a bit about the below presented point, that "unnecessary

> sporting" indicates, that there is also "legitimate sporting". If this is

to

> be true, then Srila Prabhupada must have reffered to sports in a positive

> way too. At least few times he would mention, that sports are good.

>

> Interestingly, I cannot seem to find any statements from Srila Prabhupada

in

> support of sports. So it is clear to me, that while referring to "idle

> sports", Srila Prabhupada is not referring to just one part of sports, but

> is rather telling us, that all sports are idle and unnecessary, and a

waste

> of time and energy.

>

> Am I correct in my understanding. Can somebody please correct me, if I'm

> wrong?

 

1.) I think an argument that is premised on Srila Prabhupada not

understanding the function of an adjective in English composition is

inherently weak. If your argument that all sports are idle is dependent on

assuming Srila Prabhupada didn't understand how adjectives are used in

English, then the first stage of discussion would be to establish he didn't.

 

Your first step in using logic to prove your point is to prove that SP did

not understand how to use adjectives in English. If your argument is not

based on logic, then this step would be unnecessary.

 

2.) If we are to accept, with or without proof, that SP used adjectives

incorrectly, then any place they are used is subject to the same analysis

and opens a real can of worms.

 

3.) There are so many things that are done routinuely in ISKCON that are not

supported by statements from SP. Is the same litmus test to be applied to

everything? Or just when convenient?

 

4.)Prabhupada: ...clean. That also we sometimes neglect. [break]...means

rupena jayate iti praja. Everything which is born, that is praja. [break]

....children, our grandmother used to engage us for watering work, these

pots. And that water was brought from down, two, three stories down, and we

used to bring and put. That is good exercise and sport also, competition

between children.

 

Morning Walk -- March 12, 1976, Mayapur

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