Srila Prabhupada's statements

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Dear Tripada Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!

 

Probably you are not aware that the IRM people do not accept even Srila

Prabhupada's statements unless they are confirmed by Krishnakant & Co.

 

ys Ramakanta dasa

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Let's see if Ramakant & Co. can accept this statement?

 

 

Interviewer:

Now, are you a guru?

 

Prabhupada:

Yes, I am the Spiritual Master of this institution,

and ALL the members of the Society, they're supposed

to be MY disciples. They follow the rules and

regulations which I ask them to follow, and they are

INITIATED by me spiritually. So therefore the

Spiritual Master is called Guru. That is Sanskrit

language." (Srila Prabhupada Radio Interview March 12,

1968, San Francisco)

 

 

 

 

--- "Ramakanta (das) HKS (PAMHO.NET SysOp) (Zurich -

CH)" <Ramakanta.HKS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote:

 

> Dear Tripada Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!

>

> Probably you are not aware that the IRM people do

> not accept even Srila

> Prabhupada's statements unless they are confirmed by

> Krishnakant & Co.

>

> ys Ramakanta dasa

>

>

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"If God sees that you are sincere, He will give

you a spiritual master who can give you

protection. He will help you from within and

without, without in the physical form of

spiritual master, and within as the spiritual

master within the heart."

 

Rome, May 23, 1974

 

 

"This is the magic. If you adulterate

nonsensically like a rascal, then you cannot

become a spiritual master. If you simply follow

what Krsna has spoken, then you become spiritual

master. Very simple thing. It doesn't require

education. You can hear from your spiritual

master what has Krsna said."

 

Bombay, April 4, 1974

 

 

 

 

"The disciple, if he cannot understand the

statement of the scriptures or any saintly

person, he submits his doubts before the

spiritual master and he clears it. In this way

we have to make progress.

 

Montreal, July 9, 1968

 

"Lord Caitanya says that "Every one of you

become the spiritual master, every one of you.

Why one, two? Every one of you.Oh, spiritual

master is very difficult job." No. No difficult

job. Caitanya Maha... Amara ajnaya: Just try to

carry out My order. That's all. Then you become

spiritual master."

 

Columbus, May 9, 1969

 

 

"Everyone can, whoever is initiated, he is

competent to make disciples. But as a matter of

etiquette they do not do so in the presence of

their spiritual master. This is the etiquette.

Otherwise, they are competent. They can make

disciples and spread they are competent to make

disciples."

 

Detroit, July 18, 1971

 

"So how everyone can become a spiritual master?

A spiritual master must have sufficient

knowledge, so many other qualifications. No.

Even without any qualifications, one can become

a spiritual master. How? Now the process is,

Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, amara ajnaya: "On My

order." That is the crucial point. One does not

become spiritual master by his own whims. That

is not spiritual master. He must be ordered by

superior authority. Then he's spiritual master.

Amara ajnaya. Just like in our case. Our

superior authority, our spiritual master, he

ordered me that "You just try to preach this

gospel, whatever you have learned from me, in

English." So we have tried it. That's all. It is

not that I am very much qualified. The only

qualification is that I have tried to execute

the order of superior authority. That's all.

This is the secret of success."

 

London, August 3, 1973

 

"If you are incapable of raising yourself to the

standard of becoming spiritual master, that is

not your spiritual master's fault, that is your

fault. He wants, just like Chaitanya Mahaprabhu

said, amara ajnaya guru hana, By My order, every

one of you become a guru."

 

San Diego, June 29, 1972

 

 

"Our process is evam parampara praptam imam

rajarsayo viduh. Parampara. What Krsna said, the

disciplic succession will say the same thing.

But they are speaking differently. So therefore

we don't take them as bona fide. They are not

bona fide."

 

Paris, August 13, 1973

"From a bona fide spiritual master you receive

knowledge, because he will present as he has

received from his spiritual master. He'll not

adulterate or manufacture something. That is the

bona fide spiritual master. And that is very

easy. To become spiritual master is not very

difficult thing. You'll have to become spiritual

master. You, all my disciples, everyone should

become spiritual master. It is not difficult. It

is difficult when you manufacture something. But

if you simply present whatever you have heard

from your spiritual master, it is very easy."

 

London, August 22, 1973

 

 

"Don't try to become over spiritual master. Then

you'll spoil. Remain always a servant of your

spiritual master and present the thing as you

have heard. You'll be spiritual master. This is

secret. You should know it. Don't try to become

over intelligent. That will spoil. Evam

parampara praptam imam rajarsayo viduh."

 

London, August 22, 1973

 

 

 

"There are so many qualification. But one may

not have all these qualifications. He may be

rascal number one, but still, he can become

spiritual master. How? Amara ajnaya. As Krsna

says, as Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, if you

follow, then you become spiritual master. One

may be rascal number one from material

estimation, but if he simply strictly follows

whatever is said by Caitanya Mahaprabhu or His

representative spiritual master, then he becomes

a guru. So it is not very difficult. One may not

think that "I am not qualified to become guru."

No, you are qualified if you follow strictly the

parampara system. Then you are qualified. That's

all."

 

"This is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mission, that "I

give you order. You, every one of you become a

spiritual master.Oh, I have no qualification.

How can I become spiritual master? It requires

high knowledge, Sanskrit understanding.No,

you don't require anything. Simply you speak

krsna-upadesa." What is krsna-upadesa? Krsna

says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam

vraja. You simply go door to door and say,

"Please surrender to Krsna." Then you are

spiritual master. I have done this. What I have

done? I have gone to your country to say this

thing, that "Here is Krsna, the Supreme

Personality of Godhead. You surrender; you

become perfect." That is being done. So it is

not very difficult to become spiritual master.

Simply you have to become very serious and

sincere to the service of Krsna."