Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 It never ceases to amaze me that you have the idea that KK Desai, who never met Prabhupada or studied his books, knows Prabhupada's teachings better than those who were directly trained by him. Where do you get this idea? I mean, how did it get into your head? At what point did you put your discerning faculties aside and decide to take instructions from unauthorized sources? > Yes, he did, many times. But we should "become guru" > in the way he asked us to, not in the way we want. > When asking us to "become Guru", Srila Prabhupada > would invariably invoke Lord Caitanya's instruction > from the Caitanya-caritamrta "amara ajanya guru hana". > Explaining this most famous verse, Srila Prabhupada > instructs: "It is best not to accept any disciples." > (Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila, 7.130, > purport). Also, in describing this type of Guru Srila > Prabhupada said: "'How can I become guru?' There is no > need of qualification... Whomever you meet, you > simply instruct what Krsna has said." (Lecture, > 21/5/76); and also: "Anyone can do. A child can do." > (Conversation, 11/5/77). > > So clearly he was not ordering his disciples to accept > their own disciples, but merely to preach, act as > siksa or instructing Gurus and initiate on his behalf. > > Learn the truth about the ISKCON guru hoax > ISKCON Revival Movement - http://www.iskconirm.com > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 Your arguments are simply non-sense. Even if what you say is true, he still has ALL you guys easily defeated. This is a FACT easily verified. So just try and see YOUR position! (Hint: YOU guys are MUCH worse) --- "Jahnu (Dvipa das JPS) (Mayapur - IN)" <Jahnu (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote: > > It never ceases to amaze me that you have the idea > that KK Desai, who never > met Prabhupada or studied his books, knows > Prabhupada's teachings better > than those who were directly trained by him. Where > do you get this idea? I > mean, how did it get into your head? At what point > did you put your > discerning faculties aside and decide to take > instructions from unauthorized > sources? > > > > > > > Yes, he did, many times. But we should "become > guru" > > in the way he asked us to, not in the way we want. > > When asking us to "become Guru", Srila Prabhupada > > would invariably invoke Lord Caitanya's > instruction > > from the Caitanya-caritamrta "amara ajanya guru > hana". > > Explaining this most famous verse, Srila > Prabhupada > > instructs: "It is best not to accept any > disciples." > > (Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila, 7.130, > > purport). Also, in describing this type of Guru > Srila > > Prabhupada said: "'How can I become guru?' There > is no > > need of qualification... Whomever you meet, you > > simply instruct what Krsna has said." (Lecture, > > 21/5/76); and also: "Anyone can do. A child can > do." > > (Conversation, 11/5/77). > > > > So clearly he was not ordering his disciples to > accept > > their own disciples, but merely to preach, act as > > siksa or instructing Gurus and initiate on his > behalf. > > > > Learn the truth about the ISKCON guru hoax > > ISKCON Revival Movement - http://www.iskconirm.com > > > > > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in > one click. > > http://farechase. > > ----------------------- > To from this mailing list, send an email > to: > Initiations.in.ISKCON-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net > Learn the truth about the ISKCON guru hoax ISKCON Revival Movement - http://www.iskconirm.com Start your day with - Make it your home page! http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 > Your arguments are simply non-sense. > Even if what you say is true, he still has ALL you > guys easily defeated. This is a FACT easily verified. It may be easily verified to you, but that is hardly a valid guide line, considering how little it evidently takes to convince you of anything. Someone who prefers to learn about guru-tattva from a non-devotee like KK. Desai rather than from those who were personally trained up by Prabhupada, obviously is not in a position to verify anything at all regarding Vaishnava philosophy. > So just try and see YOUR position! > (Hint: YOU guys are MUCH worse) How would you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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