Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 > Some times a breed like Sahiwal is better to keep because of its > resistance against diseases and his gentle nature. > > I have one cow (Vishnupriya) who I got from our ISKCON Goshalla here in > Mayapur about 5 years ago. She came with a bull calf (Balaram). > > I agree with you on not breeding with Western breeds. My cow is > constantly getting sick due to different parasites, which she has no > resistance to. She also can not tolerate the summer heat and has to be > kept in the shade most of the day during the hot season. We have to > provide a fan and hose her off with water 3 times a day. > Vishnupriya is a Friesian-Holstein cow. I am not against upgrading of breed. But the mentality of selecting breed only on milk neglecting ox and cow dung is what is wrong. If cow hearding maintaing breedand constantly improving them is very imp. part. Especially if you have western breed cow its must to breed with local breeds. Even otherwise it can be done but not with only milk idea. I am poor at communication. Sorry for not putting my thoughts correctly. > > On the other hand, Balaram and his two younger sisters never get sick. > They like to go outside in any weather. > Balaram is half Sahiwal, his two Sisters are half Ghir. > > As I have very good experience with Balaram for pulling the cart, I want > another Bull like him, who I can use for carting and plowing. > > I think that here in West Bengal are no more native cows. If there is I > don't know what they are. Look in nearer areas as bihar, assam etc. > > As far as the Practices at the ISKCON Goshallas are concerned, yes it is a > pity that we can not engaged the bulls more. I would much rather see a > bunch of bullock carts bringing in the grass, than that ugly, noisy and > diesel eating tractor they are using. I just did one wonderfull calculation for who say it is costly to maintain a pair of bull and use tractor instead. Compare. Tractor cost Rs 4 lakh min. working cost and fuel : very costly by product: pollution, fumes and noise. Bulls pair. Cost for pair of excellent quality: Rs 30000/- Maintainance of bulls: not much by products: dung and urine(medicine, fuel, manure, etc etc.) In Rs 370000(400000-30000) the pair of bull can be easily maintained for life. > I had a nice conversation with Pancharatna Prabhu yesterday on this > subject. He said that if enough devotees start making a lot of noise about > this serious problem, than maybe the management will start thinking and > doing something about it. Your Servant Madan Gopal Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 "Madan Gopal (das) RNS (Chowpatty, Mumbai - IN)" <Madan.Gopal.RNS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> I just did one wonderfull calculation for who say it is costly to maintain a pair of bull and use tractor instead. Compare. Tractor cost Rs 4 lakh min. working cost and fuel : very costly by product: pollution, fumes and noise. Bulls pair. Cost for pair of excellent quality: Rs 30000/- Maintainance of bulls: not much by products: dung and urine(medicine, fuel, manure, etc etc.) In Rs 370000(400000-30000) the pair of bull can be easily maintained for life. If you can add to it one more calculation, it would be practically useful. In terms of area of land that can be tilled, how many bulls are equal to one tractor? Also, more detailed presentation would help in convincing people to maintain bulls instead of tractors... FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 > "Madan Gopal (das) RNS (Chowpatty, Mumbai - IN)" > <Madan.Gopal.RNS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> I just did one wonderfull calculation for who > say it is costly to maintain a pair of bull and use tractor instead. > Compare. > Tractor cost Rs 4 lakh min. > working cost and fuel : very costly > by product: pollution, fumes and noise. > > Bulls pair. > Cost for pair of excellent quality: Rs 30000/- > Maintainance of bulls: not much > by products: dung and urine(medicine, fuel, manure, etc etc.) > In Rs 370000(400000-30000) the pair of bull can be easily maintained for > life. > > > If you can add to it one more calculation, it would be practically useful. > In terms of area of land that can be tilled, how many bulls are equal to > one tractor? Also, more detailed presentation would help in convincing > people to maintain bulls instead of tractors... I agree it is not full presentation but to begin the idea. Some one can help me with running cost of tractor and daily cost of maintainance of bull. Yes tractor can plough more land but we should consider 1. In India at present fortunately even today the farms are small size. So tractor would lie idle. Also huge farms are with more commertial intention than growing food for welfare of people. Therefore they don't consider a bit to put all poisonous stuff as the aim is only money and not to care a bit for welfare. Following point of Srila Prabhupada has to be also kept in mind. Under the name of doing big and fast we are doing more than we require and thus making anxiety and stress for ourselves. For eg Srila Prabhupada said One time on a walk, Prabhupäda was explaining how the paper currency is a cheating process. He said that the government encourages people to work hard in the factories to develop the economy of the nation, and yet they pay them only pieces of paper. When the government doesn’t have enough pieces of paper, they print up more, and thus the whole economy is based on cheating. Prabhupäda said that the Vedic economy is based on the bartering system. If the bartering system is not possible, then at least the gold standard should be used because the gold has some value and the quantity of gold is limited. After hearing Prabhupäda describe the ideal economy based on the Vedic civilization, one devotee asked, “But if all transactions are done in gold, it would be very difficult to make large deals, because to carry the gold and exchange it would be very cumbersome.” “That’s very good,” replied Prabhupäda. “Why should there be big transactions? Big transactions means that people are accumulating more than they require. We don’t want big transactions. We want each person to have what they require.” So tractor with more capacity means more than required and accompained with killing bulls and unemployed men. These unemployed men are forced to work hard under name of economic development like 12 hours or more. They get good pay but loose helth and happyness. So it is all linked but still we can make statistics. Your Servant Madan Gopal Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Hrimati (dd) ACBSP (Mayapur - IN) wrote: >As far as the Practices at the ISKCON Goshallas are concerned, yes it is a >pity that we can not engaged the bulls more. I would much rather see a bunch >of bullock carts bringing in the grass, than that ugly, noisy and diesel >eating tractor they are using. > > I definitely agree with this perspective. Due to the problem of peak oil production, the problem of "ugly, noisy, diesel tractors" will probably be completely gone in 20 years -- if not ten or five. The big question is: Is ISKCON management smart enough to promote ox power now, so that we can make a model transition to the post-petroleum economy. Or will it find itself in chaos as the petroleum-based economy -- including tractors and tourist jets -- collapses? I wonder if any of them have read my article on Srila Prabhupada's suggestions for helping us meet the coming fossil-fuel crisis? http://www.chakra.org/living/SimpJun08_05.html your servant, Hare Krsna dasi >I had a nice conversation with Pancharatna Prabhu yesterday on this subject. >He said that if enough devotees start making a lot of noise about this >serious problem, than maybe the management will start thinking and doing >something about it. > >Hope I have not offended any one. > >your humble servant, >Hrimati dasi > >----------------------- >To from this mailing list, send an email to: >Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Nice article -- but it seems to cover only 50% -- or did I miss a part about utilizing the bullocks? ys hkdd Hrimati (dd) ACBSP (Mayapur - IN) wrote: >http://judypat.com/india/cow.htm > >The above article is the best i found so far on cow Protection. > >y.s. >Hrimati dasi > >----------------------- >To from this mailing list, send an email to: >Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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