Guru Parampara ki!jay

[Guest guest]

My quotes are for everyone.Sanatana dharma is eternal it is not changing

when somebody feels that.There is Visnu tattva,Siva tattva,jiva tattva,and

guru tattva.This tattvas will never changed.They where in past ,and they

will be in future.So for me there is nothing to fight or debate.

 

One quote for good night

 

The qualification of guru is that he must be fully cognizant of the science

of KŠa. Then he or she can become guru. Yei kŠa-tattva-vett€, sei guru

haya. [break] In our material world, is it any prohibition that woman cannot

become professor? If she is qualified, she can become professor. What is the

wrong there? She must be qualified. That is the position. So similarly, if

the woman understands KŠa consciousness perfectly, she can become guru.

 

 

 

so next debate will most probably be if ladies are qualifide do be spiritual

master-guru.

 

Hari Hari bol

Guru tattva ki!jay

Srila Prabhupada!ki jay

Guru parampara ki!jay

[Guest guest]

Rama Kant prabhu.

 

Please accept my humble obeisances.

 

All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

 

Ramakanta (das) wrote:

 

 

> Dear Tripada Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!

>

> Thank you for your quotes. But as you may have

> already noticed, it is not

> possible the defeat IRM members by quoting Srila

> Prabhupada. Even if you

> could present a signed written document from Srila

> Prabhupada saying

> "Herewith I authorize XYZ Swami to ge guru and

> initiate disciples", they

> would not accept it. They would say the by "guru"

> Srila Prabhupada meant

> "siksa-guru" any by "initiate disciples" he meant

> "initiate disciples as

> ritviks".

 

 

This is simply unmitigated speculation.

 

The

 

>

> Better you defeat them by their own arguments. In

> the beginning of "The

> Final Order" is a very good argument against the

> ritvik theory:

>

> "Anyone who knew Srila Prabhupada would often note

> his meticulous nature.

> His fastidious attention to every detail of his

> devotional service was one

> of Srila Prabhupada's most distinguishing

> characteristics; and for those who

> served him closely, was profound evidence of his

> deep love and devotion to

> Lord Sri Krsna. His whole life was dedicated to

> carrying out the order of

> his spiritual master, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta, and in

> that duty he was

> uncannily vigilant. He left nothing to chance,

> always correcting, guiding

> and chastising his disciples in his effort to

> establish ISKCON. His mission

> was his life, he even said ISKCON was his body.

>

> It would certainly have been entirely out of

> character for Srila Prabhupada

> to leave an important issue, such as the future of

> initiation in his

> cherished society, up in the air, ambiguous, or in

> any way open to debate or

> speculation." (End of quote)

>

> In his books, lectures and letters Srila Prabhupada

> many times said that the

> disciple becomes the next guru. But in his books,

> lectures and letters Srila

> Prabhupada never described a post-samadhi ritvik

> system. And he gave the

> instruction that we should read his books. He also

> gave the instruction that

> we must always compare guru with sadhu and sastra.

> Further, in our

> sampradaya since at least Madhvacarya, the disciple

> became the next guru

> after the departure of the guru. So if Srila

> Prabhupada as a meticulous

> person really wanted the ritvik system to be

> continued after his departure,

> then he would have at least once given the clear, I

> repeat, clear

> instruction that the ritvik system introduced in

> 1971 or so is to be

> continued after his departure.

>

> IRM cannot present such a clear instruction,

> preferably in writing. The

> phrase "must be my disciple" in the testament is not

> that clear instruction,

> as expected from a meticulous person. Neither the

> oral statement "I shall

> recommend some of you to act as officiating

> acaryas". And the July 9th

> letter neither introduced the ritvik system nor does

> it say when it should

> stop.

 

 

It seems obvious to me, that it does not say that it

should stop for the simple reason that it was not

supposed to stop.

Furthermore if you think that it should stop then you

have to prove that.

 

 

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