Jagat Guru K.K. Desai

[Guest guest]

Yes, they think that he is Jagat Guru and that The Final Order

is the latest revealed Vedic wisdom. Srila Prabhupada says that

a true follower of the Krishna conscious movement is recognized

by his being a perfect gentleman. Compare the style of "Back to

Godhead Magazine" with the style of "Back to Prabhupada" and see

how much each of them comes to standard of being a gentlemanly

publication.

 

 

 

 

Jahnu (Dvipa das JPS) (Mayapur - IN) [Jahnu (AT) pamho (DOT) net]

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:50 AM

Tripada (das) (Split - HR); Initiations in ISKCON

Guru Parampara ki!jay

 

> My quotes are for everyone.Sanatana dharma is eternal it is not

> changing when somebody feels that.There is Visnu tattva,Siva

> tattva,jiva tattva,and guru tattva.This tattvas will never

> changed.They where in past ,and they will be in future.So for me there is

nothing to fight or debate.

>

> One quote for good night

>

> The qualification of guru is that he must be fully cognizant of the

> science of Krsna. Then he or she can become guru. Yei

> krsna-tattva-vetta, sei guru haya. [break] In our material world, is

> it any prohibition that woman cannot become professor? If she is

> qualified, she can become professor. What is the wrong there? She must

> be qualified. That is the position. So similarly, if the woman

> understands Krsna consciousness perfectly, she can become guru.

>

>

>

> so next debate will most probably be if ladies are qualifide do be

> spiritual master-guru.

>

There is nothing to debate. If Srila Prabhupada says women can become gurus,

if they are qualified, then they can become gurus. There are certain

qualifications that must be met to become a guru. As you have made clear by

your many nice quotes it's the properties and qualifications that make the

guru, not the type of body he or she is in. Ritviks can't even understand

such a simple fact. But then again, what kind of understanding can you

expect from people who think KK. Desai is some kind of oracle on

guru-tattva?

 

I have noticed that discussing with ritviks is exactly like discussing with

atheists. Atheists have to deliberately choose ignorance over enlightenment

to cover up the obvious facts - it doesn't matter what kind of evidence, or

clear logic you present, they always simply deny it and then resort to all

kinds of obfuscations, irrelevancies and confusions to talk their way out of

their self-imposed ignorance. Ritviks are exactly the same. They are clearly

atheists.