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> In a message dated 12/7/2005 1:20:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> Isvara.GGS (AT) pamho (DOT) net writes:

> Why are you so much bent on finding quotes on beating women? Please supply

> endless quotes on non-violence, compassion, and developing love of God.

> Afterall, that's what Krishna consciousness is all about.

>

> Please accept my humble my humble obeisances, all glories to Srila

> Prabhupada.

>

> Thank you prabhu for this comment, it is to the point and truthful. There

> has been a troubling aspect to this thread. From my perspective there

> seems to be a desire to provoke response to this seemingly morbid

> fascination with the very limited number of quotes that can be found about

> beating women. In the collective body of literature available to us, there

> are in fact so many more quotes about other things more conducive to and

> indicative of Krsna consciousness.

> Let us focus and imbibe those quotes before focusing on the exceptions.

>

> What we do know is that there are only a few quotes on the subject, one

> that is perhaps Srila Prabhupada's playful anecdote about his childhood

> relationship with his sister (one would have to examine the conversation

> in context to

> know for sure and I do not have the time at the moment) but certainly no

> specific instruction or example from Srila Prabhupada to beat anyone,

> woman, child,

> sudra or otherwise.

>

> I submit that to be the perpetrator of beatings of any kind, one must be

> very certain that such an act is righteous and not simply a display of

> anger and

> or frustration. Having such certainty about one's rightful position to

> "lord it over" another living entity is not the usual display of a humble

> Vaisnava character we normally aspire to. In other words, justifying

> beating someone, whomever it may be, is really walking on thin ice as far

> as Vaisnava behavior goes. Perhaps if one is of Srila Bhaktisidhanta's

> devotional stature, one can brandish the "stick" of devotional life, i.e.

> heavy language and apparent judgements. Until that day comes, if it ever

> does, it is perhaps the humble attititude we should cultivate and not the

> purusha attitude.....just a humble opinion

> from one grateful woman who has never been literally beaten in devotional

> life, yhs, Kanti dasi

 

Well said Kanti, as usual :)

 

Your servant

Braja Sevaki dd ¾

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