Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Dear Makhanlal Prabhu. Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. First I would like to apologize for my delayed reply. I did quite some soul-searching in past days. I needed to take some time, to define some guidelines for my near future. I would like to thank you for your really caring letter. I know that it must have taken you considerable amount of time to write it, and I'm really thankful for your endeavor. I agree with all your points, and will do my best to adjust my views. Please allow me to express some additional thoughts on several of your points. > However, I strongly caution you not to paint the entire ISKCON movement, > along with all its devotees, with the same brush. I was warned several times in this direction. not to overgeneralize. I will try hard to avoid doing this. It is not proper, and unfair to majority of ISKCON devotees. I hope I didn't make too many offenses. There is no need to defend myself. Let me just say, that as I see it, overgeneralization is common thing in communication between devotees. Even those who point against it, can be seen as using it frequently. It is there, and it seems quite hopeless to expect, that it will be removed, before we can start properly communicatiing. I'd rather say, that overgeneralization is to be understood, according to situation. When one says "Everybody in ISKCON is in maya!", one can obviously blame him for such gross overgeneralization. But actually such words can be understood differently too. And there is need for this, because one rarely says such thing, unless he is highly disturbed. The point is not at all in "everybody is in maya", but actually in "what is going on here? Help me!" Maybe he is not trying to say, that everybody is in maya, he may be just saying, thateverybody in his near surrounding is in maya. Or even more likely, that everybody, that is causing him trouble, is in maya. Or possibly, that he himself is in maya and is just frustrated because he cannot understand some things, and therefore he just said something to express his confused emotions, although he didn't really mean it. My point is, that evergeneralization will allways happen when person is a bit on edge, or pushing something, and instead of judging him for it, it may be better to try to understand his situation, and maybe try to put oneself in his situation. I think thats called empathy. I mean, this is just suggestion, based on my understanding, that it is hard to expect, that everybody will communicate perfectly, just the way we expect them to. > Yet, I will again come back to the fact that ISKCON still is Srila > Prabhupada’s body. > ... > The bottom line is that Srila Prabhupada is alive and well; we just have > to keep sincerely working, like your good self, to see that his standards > are maintained - but cooperatively and in the association of fixed up > devotees. Thank you for this. I try to maintain similar mood. I'm learning how to act in situations, where standards are compromised for some reasons. I will learn eventually, I'm sure. I hope I will not cause too much truble on the way. > “Physician, heal thyself”. You become a mini acharya, you sincerely > demonstrate Srila Prabhupada’s teachings, and associate, preferably > physically, with like-minded devotees committed to Srila Prabhupada, and > you make a difference! Even a half dozen like-minded devotees can create > a very beautiful sanga. That’s how the movement started and spread all > over the world. I will do this. Thank you for encouragement. > Of course, some of these critics have valuable things to say, but be > cautious when they have a mixed agenda that does not includes cooperating > with ISKCON merely because they find problems there. That kind of > association will turn you into one of the same, without doubt-completely > disillusioned, and a separatist, at best. There are so many bitter critics > of ISKCON, the GBC, etc, who blast out on the Internet but may have not > put their hand into a bead bag for the past 20 years (how about them > getting up at four in the morning; some of them follow only two of the > regulative principles, but are very opinionated about ISKCON), although > they still consider themselves to be devotees. Please don’t take that kind > of association, for it will ruin you. This is a good warning. And it seems, that there is no way, that I can be protected form this. Of course, there is always solution, to just unplug internet, and be picky with personal association. It is just hard for me to accept, that some devotees are better to be avoided, or that some devotees are not to be taken seriously, and their points to be ignored. But it seems that this is the only solution in these times. Although I really don't like idea of ignoring others, who are crying out for help, but whatever, it seems that I will have to learn how to properly block my ears in most situations. > Your paintbrush is again over-broad. You can’t say the “vast majority” are > running on blind faith. While your word of caution is well taken, you are > not the all-pervading Lord Vishnu who knows everything going on all over > the world. There are more than 450 centers worldwide. You haven’t been > there, and have no clue as to what is going on in each and every center. > Your conclusion is purely conjecture. Yes, you are correct, I was again over-broad. But if some other devotee would write like this to me, I wouldn't really consider him actually speaking of whole entire ISKCON, but only about parts of ISKCON, that he is connected with. I would understand, that in his surrounding “vast majority” are run on blind faith. Because it is obvious, that he cannot know about all 450 ISKCON centres, and all thousands of devotees. I cannot expect him to travel allaround, know everybody and everything in detail, and only then he can say something. So, he is 100% wrong, I'd say, for entire ISKCON. But at the same time, he is 100% right from his own point of view. He could also say "In my yatra ISKCON leaders keep vast majority of ISKCON membership on sentimental blind faith". But maybe he just did not want to point-finger like this, and therefore he spoke more generally, since he was certain, that readers of his words will understand well, that he cannot be speaking about everybody in ISKCON, but that he is just speaking about his own surrounding, with which he is familiar with. It seems, that not everybody perceives situations the way I do. What a revelation! I will be more precise in future. Or actually even more likely, I will just be quiet about things, which are burdening me locally. Krsna knows it all, anyway, and He can inspire me towards other, less disturbing ways to correct local situation, if that correction is needed at all. It is really difficult situation, to be disturbed or hurt with something, and then be expected to express your thoughts perfectly, so that everybody is happy with them. And it is so easy for the other side to divert attention from real points, and point towards some non-important rhetorical imperfections, and thus devalue real points. How can one be expected to be understood in the world, when he is already fully 'understood' before he even gets a chance to properly present his points. It seems hopeless. Better I chant extra rounds and read more. Krsna is in control, and what can go wrong at all. > Please be careful. The succession goes, historically, like this: First, > disenchantment with ISKCON; next, distancing oneself from ISKCON > association; then comes the idea that you can simply have a relationship > with Srila Prabhupada without the devotees; many then seek non ISKCON > Vaishnava association; and finally, disillusionment with Srila Prabhupada > himself, wondering why he created such a “defective society”, “defective > leaders”, etc. Thank you for this. My situation may be critical already. I hope Krsna will not wipe me away. Please give me your blessings, that I can see only good in ISKCON, and to never lose association of ISKCON devotees. > “Anyone who thinks they can live without the [physical-not just cyber] > association of devotees lives in a grand hallucination!” Many thousands, > including so-called “big devotees”, have gone down the path I just > described, so please don’t think you are automatically immune! Luckily I still don't think I'm immune to that. I'm just a bit confused at the moment. It will pass, I hope. I hope it turns out as a valuable experience, which will help me serve better in ISKCON. > To refresh your vision of ISKCON today, I strongly advise you to beg, > borrow (but not steal) the money to come to Mayapur for the Gaura Purnima > festival next year. When you see the 5,000 devotees from all over the > world-more than 45 nations-enthusiastically dancing and chanting, taking > shelter of the giant Pancha Tattva, and going on pilgrimage on the > Navadwipa parikrama so joyfully, you realize how glorious Srila > Prabhupada’s ISKCON still is-not just past tense. This will heal your > aching heart, without a doubt. Thank you for your blessings. May it happen this way, and may devotees finally be relieved from nasty burden of my criticisms and faultfinding. Thank you for everything your servant Giri-nayaka das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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