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> And I thought that was the point of the Prabhupada Disciples conference.

> As I said in an earlier post to the conference, I like having a corner in

> cyberspace where I can discuss things openly with my Godbrothers and

> -sisters without their disciples getting bent out of shape.

 

You mean "without them reading it," because I'd say it's a good portion of

their duty to get "bent out of shape" if their spiritual master's

godbrothers and -sisters are criticizing. Srila Prabhupada had plenty to say

about that, and while the circumstances were different, the principle isn't.

>

> Yes, I've noticed! Y'know--some day I'll meet you and Jahnu face to face.

> I expect that would change the dynamic of our exchanges in at least one or

> two ways. ;-)

 

Gee, why would you wanna do that?

 

ys

[Guest guest]

Pamho, agtSP!

 

As the moderator of the forum "Deteating Atheism" I'm quite disturbed to

wake up and see that a lot of text that has very little to do with atheism

has been postet in the "Defeating Atheism" forum. Could you please stop

that? Otherwise the forum can't be open to anyone. If you think some of

these texts has something do with atheism then please tell why and let's

keep the discussion to the point - defeating atheism. I must consider many

of these posts as a kind of spamming. Or maybe it was a mistake? Are some

devotees just using all the open forums to post all their opinions on

various subjects?

 

I'm sorry!

Ys, AKD

[Guest guest]

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 01:27 -0500, Braja Sevaki TKG <

Braja.Sevaki.TKG (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote:

 

>

> > And I thought that was the point of the Prabhupada Disciples conference.

> > As I said in an earlier post to the conference, I like having a corner

> in

> > cyberspace where I can discuss things openly with my Godbrothers and

> > -sisters without their disciples getting bent out of shape.

>

> You mean "without them reading it," because I'd say it's a good portion of

> their duty to get "bent out of shape" if their spiritual master's

> godbrothers and -sisters are criticizing. Srila Prabhupada had plenty to

> say

> about that, and while the circumstances were different, the principle

> isn't.

 

 

You may characterize it as "criticizing," but I'm just addressing situations

where we may not agree on some details of a point under discussion,

especially details regarding how to apply a principle. For example,

Trivikrama Maharaja and I should have a place where we feel free to discuss

things we don't (or may not--or may, but we need to hash things out first in

order to see that) see eye to eye on without some of his disciples getting

all exercised about my committing some offense because I don't immediately

submit to him just because he's a couple of years older than I, has been in

ISKCON a couple of years longer, or has been in the sannyasa ashram for a

really long time. I naturally defer to him because of all these things, and

because of his clearly more-advanced surrender. But I also have over 36

years' experience as an aspiring devotee, have read all the books, thought

about and discussed many issues with so many devotees, so I also have an

opinion on things. And, as it turns out, he and I differ in our

understanding of how to apply the details of certain principles. That's all

I'm talking about. If I get lippy with Maharaja, or he gets too heavy-handed

with me (never happened yet), I'm sure one of our Godbrothers or -sisters

would straighten us out.

 

While we're discussing such things, I'd be remiss if I failed to point out

that Sri Chaitanya-charitamrita makes a very clear point about the way we

relate to our gurus' Godbrothers (and -sisters, by extension). Mahaprabhu

Himself sets the clearest of examples with Ramachandra Puri, and we

rationalize ignoring or minimizing that instruction at our peril, and,

frankly, to the detriment of our mission.

 

Yours in service,

Babhru das