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Dear mother, _/\o_

 

> I already sent this topic but since I did not see any reply on the

> conference , I am wondering if it was posted. Here it is again:

 

Yes, it was posted and I was wondering about the replies...

 

> How to know if a devotee went back to Godhead or not? What are the

> criteria? Chanting the holy names, departing in the dhama, being

> surrounded by devotees, being 100% or 75% pure, having given

> everything to Guru and Gauranga?

 

The criteria are varied. The general ones are:

 

SAT SANGA DEVARCANA-SAT KATHASU

PAROPADESE 'BHIRATO MANUSYAH

SA YATI VISNOH PARAMAM PADAM TAT

DEHA AVASANE'CYUTA TULYA TEJAH

 

(HARI BHAKTI VILASA 10/482 from BRHAN NARADIYA PURANA)

 

Those people who enjoy the association of Vaisnavas, who worship the

Supreme Personality of Godhead, who listen and speak the

transcendental glories of the Lord, who engage themselves in listening

and hearing to the transcendental glories of the Lord, after giving up

the present body, they achieve the same bright transcendental body as

the Supreme Personality of Godhead and attain His eternal abode.

 

 

Among the 'minimal' ones, applicable even for nondevotees, are

(Haribhaktivilasa lists many more):

 

Garuda Purana 2.38.9 "Undoubtedly one attains salvation if one dies

near a Salagrama stone which is powerful for annihilating all sins and

defects."

 

VILAYAM YANTI PAPANI PITE PADODAKE HAREH

KIM PUNAR VISNU PADODAM SALAGRAMA SILACYUTAM

VISESENA HARET PAPAM BRAHMA HATYADIKAM PRIYE

PITE PADODAKE VISNOR YADI PRANAIR VIMUCYATE

HATVA YAMA BHATAN SARVAN VAISVAVAM LOKAM APNUYAT

 

(HARI BHAKTI VILASA 9/68,69 from SKANDA PURANA conversation between

Siva and Uma)

 

Whoever drinks the water emanated from the Deity of Lord Sri Hari, all

of his sins are removed. I say, oh dear wife, what more can I say

about the water emanated from the bathing of Salagram Sila which

actually cuts the sin acquired by killing a brahmana. Anybody who

quits his body while drinking the water which has emanated from the

lotus feet of Lord Hari, the messengers of Yamaraja run away from him

and he attains the abode of Lord Sri Visnu.

 

PRADAKSINAM YE KURVANTI BHAKTI YUKTENA CETASA

NA TE YAMAPURAM YANTI YANTI PUNYA KRTAM GATIM

 

(HARI BHAKTI VILASA 8/395 from VARAHA PURANA)

 

Those people who circumambulate Lord Hari with devotion, they do not

go to the abode of Yamaraja. They achieve the destination which is

achieved by devotees of the Supreme Lord.

 

SARANAGATA RAKSANODYATAM HARIM ISAM PRANAMANTI YENARAH

NA PATANTI BHAVAMBUDHAU SPHUTAM PATITANUDDHARATI SMA TANASAU

 

(HARI BHAKTI VILASA 8/382 from BRAHMA-VAIVARTA PURANA)

 

Those people who pay obeisances to the Supreme Lord Hari, Who protects

those who come and take shelter at His lotus feet, they do not fall

into the material ocean again. Even if there is some chance to fall,

Lord Sri Hari liberates them again.

 

BALYE SAMKRIDA MANA YE PANSUBHIR BHAVANAM HAREH

VASUDEVASYA KURVANTI TE'PI TALLOKA GAMINAH

 

(HARI BHAKTI VILASA 20/22 from VISNU RAHASYA)

 

The children who in their childhood play make a temple out of sand for

the pleasure of Lord Hari also attain the abode of Lord Hari.

 

Imho, the most wonderful one:

 

YATINAM VISNU BHAKTANAM PARICARYA PARAYANAIH

IKSITA API GACCHANTI PAPINO'PI PARAM GATIM

 

(HARI BHAKTI VILASA 10/147 from BRHAN NARADIYA PURANA spoken by the

Visnudutas)

 

One who serves a sannyasi and a devotee of the Supreme Lord Hari, if

such a devotee sees someone else, even if that person (the one he

sees) is sinful, he achieves the supreme abode, Vaikuntha.

 

So are you saved? 8)

 

> Besides Jayananda Prabhu, are there

> any other times whenn Srila Prabhupada mentionned that a devotee

> wwent back to the spiritual world (and which division of the

> spiritual world?)

 

Not aware of them. Technically speaking, it needs a devotee with an

access to the lila to figure out the position of the liberated jiva.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Your servant, bh. Jan

 

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