Official Ramakanta vs. IRM discussion thread

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Posted by Yaduraja on Jan 24, 2006:

 

Dear Ramakanta Prabhu,

PAMHO. AGTSP!

you wrote:

 

> What you just wrote is not a proof that Srila Prabhupada set himself up,

> deliberately, in the position of the sole diksa guru for ISKCON in 1966

> (as you wrote on November 17, 2005). So it is still unproven.

 

I proved it some time ago. I proved it so convincingly that you agreed with

it three times. I shall re-prove it, but first things first.

 

> So please provide a proof or admit that it is unproven.

 

Please admit you contradicted yourself twice in a row so we can move

forward.

 

> > But you agreed with point a) THREE TIMES.

>

> I told you not to base your arguments on what I agree with.

 

But you are the person I am debating. So should I just ignore you then?

 

> > A) Our main opponent the GBC have never queried it.

>

> This is not a proof. In what paper did you present above claim to the GBC?

 

Ask your guru Harikesa if Srila Prabhupada set himself up as the sole diksa

for ISKCON in 1966. I know he has abandoned you, and no longer even accepts

the principle of guru, but you never know, he may answer one last query.

Worth a try. I think I can give you his email address if you like.

 

NCIP proves that Srila Prabhupada set up various standards and procedures

within ISKCON, including the fact he was the diksa guru. The GBC accept he

was the diksa guru within ISKCON from 1966, but that right at the end (May

28th, July 9th, July 7th 1977, depending on which of their contradictory

papers you read) he allegedly gave orders that he should be succeeded as the

diksa guru after his departure. No GBC has ever questioned the fact that

Srila Prabhupada set himself up as the diksa guru for ISKCON in 1966. And

even you agreed with it till just two days ago.

 

> > B) Ramakanta Prabhu agreed with it three time.

>

> This is not a proof.

 

But you did though didn’t you. Everyone can see you did. And now you refuse

to admit you contradicted yourself twice in a row.

 

> > So please explain how the above was NOT a contradiction.

>

> I already explained it. Please read my previous texts or ask someone who

> understood me to explain it to you. (Hint: I am not this body.)

 

Oh sorry, i thought that was some kind of joke. So are you saying that your

body contradicted itself, but not the soul of Ramakanta that lies within?

 

This may explain why I seem to be talking to two Ramakantas. You need to

take better control of your naughty, rampant mind, intelligence and false

ego, they are making a fool of you in this debate Prabhu.

 

I tell you what, if you are willing to concede that your body contradicted

itself twice in a row I shall move on to re-proving point a). I cannot

believe my own generosity sometimes.

Best wishes to you and your body,

Ys

Yadu