Official Ramakanta vs. IRM discussion thread

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Posted by Yaduraja on Feb 06, 2006:

 

Dear Ramakanta Prabhu,

PAMHO. AGTSP!

 

I wrote:

 

"Oh no, you don't change the subject so easily with me, you should know that

by now. Nice try though."

 

to which you replied:

 

> Ditto. I asked you to prove your point a). Why do you change the subject?

 

What are you talking about? I am going through my 11 arguments made in

support of point a) and answering your so-called refutations. How is that

changing the subject? Goodness you are confused.

 

Look, why not take some time off, do a course in English, and then come back

when you can understand simple sentences such as:

 

"Srila Prabhupada set himself up, deliberately, in the position of the sole

diksa guru for ISKCON in 1966." (Yaduraja, Nov 17, 2005)

 

It means what the words say!! What possible difference does it make whether

the ‘activity’ started in Jan or Dec of 1966? It would hold true either way.

How does this type of petty quibbling make any difference to your self

contradiction?

 

All you seem to be doing is trying to change the subject so you can avoid

admitting you just contradicted yourself TWICE in a row.

 

I added the word ‘deliberately’ to the Nov 17th paraphrasing of my original

point a) in order to clearly distance our position from the Robinson Crusoe,

chaos type theory you formally advocated, but happily no longer. It makes NO

DIFFERENCE to the meaning of point a) since to ‘set up’ something is in any

case a deliberate act. Adding the word 'deliberately' simply emphasised the

fact that it was not done accidentally since you seemed to be pushing that

possibility. So I humbly suggest you brush up on your English so you can

understand what our position is and avoid these constant embarrassing gaffes

you keep making. I think if you were to do that you may very well see we

were right all along. You wrote previously:

 

> I would be careful posting such statements because if I win the debate,

> you will be known as the person who has been defeated by a fool.

 

I am willing to take the risk since you are so busy defeating yourself I

doubt you will ever have time to defeat us.

 

As I say the GBC have all effectively admitted defeat by withdrawing the

very paper TFO set out to smash with 'gurus' admitting it contained 'lies'

and 'stretched the truth', and in their case they do not have the excuse of

having English as a second language. So there is no great dishonour in you

conceding defeat. But there will be dishonour in carrying on the way you are

going right now. I honestly think you should take a break, brush up your

English, re-read our papers, and then come back to me if you still disagree.

 

Best wishes

Ys

Yadu