Varakh..The Source Of Silver Foil In Sweets

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Pamho. AGTSP.

I understand the concern regarding the film roles, but first we should

concentrate on what we offer to the Lord.I am never offering to Krishna

something which I consider not offerable. Better is just to offer some

simple food if there is some doubt.So if some white sugar is produced using

white sugar why to use it.Krishna doesnt need all so many sweets if they can

not be cooked in sattvik way. In India there is so much natural sugar like

ghur, etc. He is easily satisfied with pure sattvik food.But we should be

careful not to offer something to Krishna just satisfy our tongue. I think

this is rather to be considered how much KC we actually are practing.As

Varakh is concerned I dont see any reason why actually we need to offer this

to Deities just as its produced in some vrajavasi shop and its a fashion to

eat in some indian families. I think leaders and senior devotees have

responsability to educate about this.

Your servant

Damana Krishna dasa

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Hare Krishna,

If you extend this analysis, all organic matter whether animal or agro

based, are part of a larger food chain or cycle. Innumerable variety of

microorganisms are being consumed by us every day. There is no point in

discriminating products this way, it is better to understand their karmic

effects rather than their intrinsic molecular content.

solai

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Varakh..The Source Of Silver Foil In Sweets

 

 

>I know one devotee who was working in film roles manufacturing company. He

> said no film roles are manufactured without using bones of cows. Only cows

> bones are used. no other animals bones are used. They make gelatin from

> bone

> and it is used in manufacturing process. SO please stop using those as

> well.

> Your Servant

> Madan Gopal Das

>

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> Hare Krishna,

> If you extend this analysis, all organic matter whether animal or agro

> based, are part of a larger food chain or cycle. Innumerable variety of

> microorganisms are being consumed by us every day. There is no point in

> discriminating products this way, it is better to understand their karmic

> effects rather than their intrinsic molecular content.

> solai

> -

> "Madan Gopal (das) RNS (Chowpatty, Mumbai - IN)"

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> related topics)" <Holistic.Health (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

> Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:25 PM

> Varakh..The Source Of Silver Foil In Sweets

>

>

> >I know one devotee who was working in film roles manufacturing company.

> >He

> > said no film roles are manufactured without using bones of cows. Only

> > cows bones are used. no other animals bones are used. They make gelatin

> > from bone

> > and it is used in manufacturing process. SO please stop using those as

> > well.

> > Your Servant

> > Madan Gopal Das

> >

Dear prabhus,

 

Please accept my humble obeisances.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

 

Yes we have to refer to scriptures. First Lord Sri Krsna has ordered to

offer leaf, flower and fruit. Then In BG 17.10 it is said food of

untouchable things as in mode of ignorance. In purport it has been said

meat, liqour etc as untouchable things. So flesh items are untouchables. We

are not against eating microbes as sanctioned inscriptures. Curd (dahi) has

millions of bacteria. Still we accept it. But how can you compare it to

something connected to cow killing.

 

Overall all of us have to start living a simple life even in spiritual life.

Yes we have to think do we really need so many photos, and modern

instruments. Our previous acharyas have perfected there life without all

these extra amenaties. Yes as per yukta vairagya we should use all thing in

preaching and Krsna's service. But for us we may think do we really need so

many things (food, others, etc) especially if those things are a result of

cruelty to cows and animals.

 

Here we are mixing basic necessasities sanctioned by scriptures and other

being extras not sanctioned by scriptures, tinged with violence. Therfore

even basic necessaties have to be offered to Sri Krsna. We should

differentiate between necessaties and luxaries(extras). And then even for

necessaties we should try to get products which involve less violence etc.

If we are not aware of what we are eating/doing and what it involes then it

is nothing but lack of knowledge i.e. ignorance.

 

Your Servant

Madan Gopal Das

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Good points, Prabhu. Everything is not the same. If you only thought about

the molecular structure of what you eat, there is not even any reason to be

vegetarian. because on that level it is all the same earth, water, fire, air

and ether.

 

ys, jdd

 

 

> Dear prabhus,

>

> Please accept my humble obeisances.

> All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

>

> Yes we have to refer to scriptures. First Lord Sri Krsna has ordered to

> offer leaf, flower and fruit. Then In BG 17.10 it is said food of

> untouchable things as in mode of ignorance. In purport it has been said

> meat, liqour etc as untouchable things. So flesh items are untouchables.

> We are not against eating microbes as sanctioned inscriptures. Curd (dahi)

> has millions of bacteria. Still we accept it. But how can you compare it

> to something connected to cow killing.

>

> Overall all of us have to start living a simple life even in spiritual

> life. Yes we have to think do we really need so many photos, and modern

> instruments. Our previous acharyas have perfected there life without all

> these extra amenaties. Yes as per yukta vairagya we should use all thing

> in preaching and Krsna's service. But for us we may think do we really

> need so many things (food, others, etc) especially if those things are a

> result of cruelty to cows and animals.

>

> Here we are mixing basic necessasities sanctioned by scriptures and other

> being extras not sanctioned by scriptures, tinged with violence. Therfore

> even basic necessaties have to be offered to Sri Krsna. We should

> differentiate between necessaties and luxaries(extras). And then even for

> necessaties we should try to get products which involve less violence etc.

> If we are not aware of what we are eating/doing and what it involes then

> it is nothing but lack of knowledge i.e. ignorance.

>

> Your Servant

> Madan Gopal Das

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In a message dated 2/13/2006 4:10:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

Jahnu (AT) pamho (DOT) net writes:

 

We are not against eating microbes as sanctioned inscriptures. Curd (dahi)

> has millions of bacteria. Still we accept it. But how can you compare it

> to something connected to cow killing.

 

 

Agreed. So, what about playing mrdanga's with cowhide covers and heads? What

about harmoniums with cow hide inserted on the bellows to increase their

strength? Where do the Yak Tails come from that we fan our dieties with (OK, a

 

no brainer, they come from yaks, but how are they secured? Is the yak killed

first or does some yak tail-hunter simply come up from behind and whack off

the poor yak's tail?)

 

By the way, did you know that there are cow parts in computer keyboards? And

steering wheels, and about a zillion other common ordinary household items?

What about common ordinary ply wood that is held together by GLUE, as in from

animal bones. What to do?

[Guest guest]

Pamho. AGTSP.

My humble comment.

Maybe some items can be used for Lord service even comming from violent

acts. Like there is gocharan pigment comming from cow liver and used in

puja.Also there is some pigment produced by grinding some bugs.The Lord can

accept anyones body parts even Hiranyakasipus intestines and stay pure.

But we as small insignificant souls who are prone to karma and offences

should at least not eat unvegetarian items. At least for me its a difference

what I eat and maybe that keyboard is non vegetarian. Like there is story

when Krishna was accepting bhoga from a prostitute and babajis lost semen.

And the Lord said that he can digest everything, but babajis should care to

not get contaminated mind.

Your servant

Damana Krishna dasa

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>

> In a message dated 2/13/2006 4:10:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> Jahnu (AT) pamho (DOT) net writes:

 

I didn't write this, but I'll comment on it anyway.

 

> We are not against eating microbes as sanctioned inscriptures. Curd

> (dahi)

> > has millions of bacteria. Still we accept it. But how can you compare

> > it

> > to something connected to cow killing.

>

>

> Agreed. So, what about playing mrdanga's with cowhide covers and heads?

 

The cowhide used for mridangas come from cows who died a natural death.

 

> What about harmoniums with cow hide inserted on the bellows to increase

> their strength? Where do the Yak Tails come from that we fan our dieties

> with (OK, a

>

> no brainer, they come from yaks, but how are they secured? Is the yak

> killed first or does some yak tail-hunter simply come up from behind and

> whack off the poor yak's tail?)

 

You certainly don't need to kill the yak oxe to get its tail. You can wait

till it dies a natural death.

 

> By the way, did you know that there are cow parts in computer keyboards?

> And steering wheels, and about a zillion other common ordinary household

> items? What about common ordinary ply wood that is held together by GLUE,

> as in from animal bones. What to do?

 

Maybe use common sense? I have heard that Srila Prabhupada was a great

advocate of common sense.

 

ys, jdd

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Regarding the natural death theory: it is only that. who can say for sure?

Inida is the no. one exported of leather in the world and no one will ever

convince my kali yuga mind that all of those animals died a "natural" death!

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> Regarding the natural death theory: it is only that. who can say for sure?

> Inida is the no. one exported of leather in the world and no one will ever

> convince my kali yuga mind that all of those animals died a "natural"

> death!

 

We had better stop using mridangas and camaras, then

 

Or use only plastic mridangas... Maybe we can start making camaras out of

nylon.

 

ys, jdd