Official Ramakanta vs. IRM discussion thread

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Posted by Yaduraja on Feb 15, 2006:

 

Dear Ramakanta Prabhu,

PAMHO, AGTSP,

 

You have accused me of speculating and then refuse to explain how. Why make

such accusations if you are not prepared to prove them? And then you have

the audacity to ask me to prove whatever whimsical thing pops into your head

even though you have left behind a trail of unverified, contradictory

statements.

 

If you refuse to explain why I was speculating then I shall just assume my

assumption was correct all along.

 

Added to the fact that you cannot prove your accusation there is of course a

more fundamental contradiction to your position. You claim Harikesa is your

diksa guru:

 

He is my diksa-guru. (Ramakanta das)

 

And yet Harikesa has now rejected Srila Prabhupada’s teachings on the need

to approach Krishna through his representative, the guru! He now promotes…

 

 

“An understanding of spirituality as distinct and free from ‘religion’ as we

know it today. The freedom of the soul and the soul’s inherent right to have

a direct and deep loving relationship with the supreme without a need of

dis-empowering itself to any form of intermediate ‘representative’ of God.”

(Harikesa das http://www.earthfuture.se/lectures. php, archived 17 October

2005)

 

This means that Srila Prabhupada is teaching something different to your

diksa guru. That means you cannot accept Srila Prabhupada as a siksa guru

since he is contradicting your diksa guru. It also means your diksa guru

preaches that you do not need a guru of any kind. This is completely

self-contradictory. Of course Harikesa is a rascal since in teaching this he

is in any case still posing as a guru by telling everyone how they must

approach God.

 

If you do not accept Srila Prabhupada’s teachings then there is no point in

continuing this discussion. If you do accept his teachings then you must

renounce Harikesa completely as your diksa guru. You choose. But you cannot

claim both.

 

Once you reject Harikesa completely you may be able to start thinking more

clearly and not keep contradicting yourself and Srila Prabhupada’s orders on

initiation within ISKCON. After we deal with this there are more accusations

and your contradictions to go through and then I will happily deal with your

newest, latest request which is very easy to answer, but is being held in a

queue.

Best wishes

Ys

Yadu