Official Ramakanta vs. IRM discussion thread

February 17, 2006

Posted by Yaduraja on Feb 16, 2006:

Dear Ramakanata Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!

I had written:

"You have accused me of speculating and then refuse to explain how. Why make

such accusations if you are not prepared to prove them?"

> I already explained it shortly and I am prepared to explain it more.

No, you have not explained it at all.

If Harikesa is your diksa guru then you must accept his authority.

He promoted the rubber stamping process for years and years as bona fide.

Therefore you must accept all gurus in ISKCON as equally authorised to act

as gurus.

Therefore my statement that you accept ISKCON gurus as authorised must be

correct.

If you think that Harikesa was authorised in a uniquely different way from

all the other ‘gurus’, and you can provide evidence for this, then obviously

we should all be aware of this wonderful news.

Then on top of that your whole life is a contradiction since Harikesa

contradicts Srila Prabhupada.

So you need to renounce one or the other. You cannot claim you are a

disciple of both. If you are a disciple of Harikesa then we can stop this

discussion since you do not accept even the principle of guru, so what is

the point in my trying to convince you of who should be the diksa guru for

ISKCON. It would be utterly futile, as indeed it has been so far.

You claimed this duel discipleship long before this very new, very recent

challenge popped desperately into your head, so I am happy to deal with this

first. As you say two discussions are confusing, I totally agree. I am happy

to wait for you to explain your way out of the above before jumping to

another topic (which will in any case be more such contradiction and

accusation). If I have speculated I need you to help me by explaining

exactly how I did so, so I do not make the same dreadful error again. If you

cannot explain yourself then just admit it, withdraw your accusation that I

speculated, then we can move on.

Best wishes

Ys

Yadu

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