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> Well, why can't the universe just have existed forever with all it's

> complexity?

 

Eternal existence of universe is taught by taoism, if I remember well.

It's a form of monism. Moreover, it is contradicted by Vedanta-sutra

2.4.20 saying that the Lord is both the primary and the secondary

cause of creation.

 

> We might not understand everything about the universe

> know, but science shows that we have good reasons to think that the

> laws behind the universe are very simple. So simple that in the

> future we can wear them on the front of a T-shirt.

 

I'd say those who have Radha-Krsna / mahamantra on their t-shirt, have

the answer since the world is Their lila product, so to say. 8)

 

> And the wacth-maker analogy is simply an analogy. We can't take such

> analogies as certain proof of anything. Even if it was a good

> analogy we can't even know anything about the intelligence, or

> intelligences, behind the world. Why should we name it God?

 

The watch maker analogy is a modern (coined by W. Paley) form of a

Vedanta analogy: "Within the effect (world) the cause (Brahman) can be

seen just as cobweb makes one [intelligent person] think of a spider."

(Vedanta-sutra 2.2.15 paraphrased)

 

When you talk about intelligence (either in sing. or in pl.), you're

more of a monist or similar than a general atheist.

 

ys Jan

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