Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Letter PAMHO:11270261 (164 lines) Internet: "Nitai Ram" <Nitai (AT) AEMAIL4U (DOT) COM> 16-Mar-06 18:45 (10:45 -0800) Ajita Krishna (das) (Copenhagen - DK) [801] Re: More --------------------------- Hare Hare Ok, back to primary point >God is beyond the words You say you give spiritual information. But about what. God does not exist. You are wasting your time and words. >>God is not beyond words. He's beyond material words. >This is called empty talk. No proof. You came jumping out with a lot of unproven claims. As long as you don't prove God's existence in a way that people can experience or see him with material senses nobody will accept you. And you also have only blind faith in some scriptures and gurus. >>>>>He is inconceivable >>>>Not completely! We can understand about God what He reveals to us. >>>I don't believe in promissing words. Give me something tangible but don't >>tell me about becoming qualified to realize Him because that's also in the >>realm of promisses. >>The word is full of promises. When you take an education in atom physics >>then you do it because you believe in a promise that tells you that this >>is >>somehow worthwhile. >This is another fallacy in logic; bringing into the disscussion something >that have nothing to do with the primary topic. No, you brought the topic os promises into the discussion. When I mention the word promise it is regarding your statement that God will reveale Himself to us. You speak about material education and its result is different from spiritual empty promise. >you accept promises before you undertake an education in almost any field Your comparison of material process with a spiritual is not acceptable for me. Try something else. >so if you don't want to do that [to accept promise] in the spiritual science, then you have a double standard. do you understand what you are writing about? >>>>That means no one saw Him >>>Only if your assertions are true which they aren't. >That means you are going against the statement that God is inconceivable. >What is for u the definition of the word 'inconceivable'? Dictionary menings are: unthinkable, unbelievable, absurd The Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary says: Main Entry: in.con.ceiv.able Pronunciation: "in-k&n-'sE-v&-b&l Function: adjective : not conceivable: as a : impossible to comprehend b : UNBELIEVABLE So, disscussion closed. We don't have to believe in some imaginary god. When the Vedas state that God is inconcievable it means "IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPREHEND" Yes, what is to be understood about something that does not exist. Nothing. >and it can have two meaning I mentioned - and which are just below: Now you gonna build a myth on baseless ground. Let see. >When the Vedas say God is inconceivable it means two things. 1. God can't be understood by material means. This proofs my point. He does not exist. 2. God can't be fully understood. So, if you cannot understand Him by material means you cannot understand Him even partly. I know you would say understand Him spiritually, but this is all word jugglery just to bewilder the intelligence of man. >God cannot be understood at all. Your so-called realizations of God is just >the result of your creative mind. You shouldn't state this if you can't prove it. Billions of atheistic people are the prove. In your mythology, in ancient times God would appear before the material eyes of the atheists making them believers in Him. Where is now your God. All those stories are just mythology; God never existed. >People in mental hospital also have similar >visions. They speaking with imaginary ghosts; Krishnas with imaginary, >mind-created Krishna. So because some people in mental hospitals have visions therefore all religious experiences are imaginary? Very very good logic >>From Krishna Himself we know that we can know for sure that God exist, and >>that we also can have intimate knowledge about Him. This knowledge is >>spoken from guru to disciple in parampara, so therefore it would be >>extremely contradictory to say that we can't know anything about God. >This is only your belief system. The priests are keeping you on a thread >like the muster keeps his dog on chain. Since you can't prove this claim, or any other claim you have put forward, then you are the one who is a slave of your own belief-system. You don't know me enough to say anithing about me. I am not a slave of anybody. You are mistaken. >>It's also a logical contradiction to claim that we can't know anything >>about God, because if you know that then you know about God that we can't >>know anything about Him - a contradiction. >Discussing about something is not a level of realization. When you discuss >something it doesn't mean that that something i.e. God exist. Thus, there >is no contradiction. You are creating the contradiction just to try to >convince me that there is God. What I'm saying is that we can know something about the concept God if you claim that we can't know something about the concept God. Thus we have a contradiction if you claim so. Therefore it's a fact that we can know something about the concept God. That's all I'm saying. So many people can say so many things, but that doesn't mean they speak the truth and about things that really exist. When you speak about God those words for me are only some words but not something that really exist. 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