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> We don`t like to mention the lecturer before I found(if I found) that

> particular lecture, but senior devotee sended us this quote from Srila

> Prabhupada as evidence that Krishna tries to

> convince the jiva not to leave the spiritual world.

 

Yes, I was there at this lecture, in Melbourne 1975. Madhudvisa asked this

question, and Prabhupada gave this fascinating reply. It is on video too.

 

>

>

> Devotee: "In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to

> come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we

> here?"

> Srila Prabhupada: "Yes. You forced Krsna to allow you to come. Just like

> sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, 'My dear son, do not do

> this.

> Do

> not go there.' But he insists. 'Oh, I must go. I must go.' 'All right, you

> go

> at your risk. That's all. And you suffer. What can be done?' Because you

> are son of God--God has got independence, full independence, almighty--

> therefore

> you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little

> independence. So God does not interfere with your little independence. If

> you

> persist that

> 'I must go and enjoy independently,' so God says, 'All right, you can go.'

> This is the position. You have to take sanction. That is a fact. But when

> you

> persist, God sanctions. And you come and enjoy" (Collected Lectures on

> Bhagavad-gita As It Is, Vol. III, pp. 112-113).

>

>

> ys muniraja dasa

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