Official Ramakanta vs. IRM discussion thread

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Posted by Yaduraja on Apr 12, 2006:

 

Dear Ramakanta Prabhu,

PAMHO. AGTSP!

You wrote:

 

> Sorry that my question was not clear enough. So I will rephrase it:

>

> If "established himself", "set himself up" and "made himself recognized

> and accepted" mean the same but I object to "established himself" and "set

> himself up", then why don't you just write only "made himself recognized

> and accepted" instead of "established himself" or "set himself up" and in

> this way avoid a long discussion with me?

 

I see your point, it’s just quicker to use the word ‘established’ than write

“made himself recognized and accepted”. But when you object so strongly to

the word ‘established’ it just makes me worried that we may be lurching into

another misunderstanding between us.

 

> I am slowly learning your language. So following three statements mean the

> same:

>

> "The ISKCON gurus set themselves up as diksa gurus."

>

> "The ISKCON gurus established themselves as diksa gurus."

>

> "The ISKCON gurus made themselves recognized and accepted as diksa gurus."

>

> Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

The third sentence explains how they established or set themselves up as

diksa gurus. The first two mean exactly the same as each other and ONLY

state that they achieved this, not how they did it.

 

I am happy to try to clarify any of these points of language if I can be of

help. I honestly think that many devotees for whom English is not their

primary language are at a distinct disadvantage over understanding exactly

what has gone wrong in ISKCON over this issue. I was wondering if our German

version of The Final Order (Die Letzte Anweisung) was any use to you, though

I am informed that Swiss-German is also different from German.

Best wishes

ys

Yadu