Guest guest Posted May 27, 2005 Report Share Posted May 27, 2005 > Many years ago I heard it said that Srila Prabhupada had said that Indira > Gandhi being PM of India indicated that there was no real ksatriya left in > India, for had there been they could not have tolerated to be ruled by a > woman. Can anyone confirm, clarify, or deny this? You might find this helpful, especially the last two paragraphs: TD1 September 6, 1976 -- Vrindavana Referring to the Indian government's program of enforced sterilization being imposed on the general population, Prabhupada said, "Now they're making propaganda for sterilization. And if we advise make a brahmacari-asrama from the beginning, they will not take. 'What is this nonsense, brahmacari?'" Aksayananda wondered why they reject the idea. "Is it because they cannot do it?" Prabhupada said they can do it if they want. 'Just like by training you have given up so many things. You were accustomed to this illicit sex and meat-eating, but you have given up. But why? By training. So if we request the government, 'Let us open this brahmacari ...' They'll not help. But they'll make the other propaganda; they'll make contraceptive method. And naturally one Hindu widow is trained up not to marry again. Once she got a husband, that's all right. Now you convert your, you divert your attention to Krsna. They'll make propaganda. 'Why stop her sense gratification? Let her marry again, widow marriage.' Why widow marriage? If there is voluntarily giving up begetting any more child, to avoid husband, why the widow marriage bill is introduced? "Everything was natural, brahmacari. The sterilization is already there. That will not be accepted. Widow, she's remaining refrained from. Just like we have now asked our girls not to dress attractively, widow. They should dress not attractively. Because after all, what is this sex enjoyment? It is not very good thing. By outward attraction they attract. Nice sari, nice face powder -- one becomes attracted. Therefore this is psychology, that if the woman does not dress very nicely, she will not be attractive. Unnecessarily attraction she will avoid. But a woman is naturally, her psychology is dress very nicely so that man may be attracted, because they want shelter. This is the whole psychology. They, although they declare independence, they cannot live independently, that is not possible. Therefore they are by nature accustomed to dress attractively so that one may accept her and give her shelter. This is psychology. Otherwise, why the woman are naturally inclined to dress herself nice? Man does not. This is the psychology. A boy, sixteen-years-old boy, he does not, he is roughly dressed. But a sixteen-year-old girl will never remain roughly. She'll always try to decorate herself very nicely and utilize her youthful beauty for attracting. Why attracting? Because she wants shelter. Therefore it is the duty of the father and mother that she is young girl, she wants shelter, and out of passion, lusty desires, her selection may be wrong. So before she selects out of her own way, 'Let me, it is my duty, I am guardian. Give her some good shelter.' This is Hindu process." Aksayananda said that although it was perfectly natural, "They will say restricting, unnatural." "They may say," Prabhupada said. "But this is natural psychology. Father, mother, they know, the well-wisher of the children. Now everything is spoiled. But we don't care for this. We say take to Krsna consciousness, everything will be adjusted." We continued discussing the sterilization program and Aksayananda asked if when they perform the operation, it spoils their intelligence. "Because as I have read, if the semina can go to the brain, then there can be some intelligence, if even a little could go. Is it by sterilization no more can go to the brain? So they have become oxen. They've become like the oxen." Prabhupada nodded. "Nowadays boys are dull. Why dull?" "So dull in India," Aksayananda said. "Everywhere," Prabhupada observed. "Because they discharge semina like anything. Must be dull. There is a word, uddhareta. Reta means semina. One who has learned how to divert the movement of the semina to the brain, uddhareta, greatest yogis. By yogic power they can do that, instead of discharging, going down." Aksayananda, formerly a married man with two children who has been a sannyasi since 1972, lamented the unfortunate position of the victims. "So if they become sterilized then there's no more possibility for the semina to go up. Never again. Nothing can go to the brain. Therefore their brain is finished for life." Srila Prabhupada wasn't entirely blaming the government however. Recently reports have come in that all the babajis in the greater Vrndavana district, including Govardhana and Radha-kunda, have been taken by the busload and sterilized. just like this babaji has been sterilized, because the government knows, even the so-called sadhus and babajis, they are using their sex. It is open secret. Because so many women go to hospitals, American hospitals. The hospital men, they do not take it serious, 'It is natural, a man and woman.' But it is strictly forbidden according to spiritual life." Aksayananda said that he knew a doctor, one of our life members, who was now required by the government to perform a certain number of sterilizations per day or else he does not get paid. According to the newspapers, in just one state 70,000 women and 36,000 men have been forcibly operated on. And the law is that if a couple has three children, they must be sterilized. Aksayananda Maharaja commented that this is a real sign of Kali-yuga's progression. "A woman is in charge and she is castrating all the men-making them brainless like the oxen." He felt that because of this situation, our preaching in India must be very tactful. But Prabhupada saw it all as an opportunity to increase our preaching. "No, just like I was speaking from Bhagavatam. If you speak only on the subject matter as it is mentioned in the books, it is already tactful." Quoting this morning's verse again he said, "Now they are in a position of soka-moha-bhaya. So you take to Krsna consciousness. This is the best best tact, now it is the time, now they are put into soka-moha-bhaya. It is already there going on, soka-moha-bhaya. But it is now special time for soka-moha-bhaya. So you have to take it. It may be out of fear, bhaya, they may take to Krsna consciousness." Your humble servant, Hari-sauri dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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