Guest guest Posted May 28, 2005 Report Share Posted May 28, 2005 > This is only one hospital in one state of one country of the world, so it > is rather dubious to consider that this practice is given such attention > everywhere else...especially 30-60 years ago, when most western devotees > were born. Eg. I know for a fact that it was not an important issue in > Australia during my 'birth-era'. Additionally, I know of many Indian > devotees who do not even know how old they really are (within 5 years!), > since even their year of birth was not given prominence! > > ys > ganesa dasa > > _ What I quoted bellow was basically the same thing told to me by a doctor trained in Hungary and who now practices in USA. Plus the nurse I quoted below has worked all over the USA not just in one hospital in one city. She has also travelled and worked internationally including OZ. The point being is that when tehre is a recorded birth time from hospital records then one should not be so quick to throw it out as being wrong which is the habit of some less talented astrologers who can't figure the chart out so they start tinkering with the time. As for the accuracy in other countries, as I said I was told the same thing by a Hungarian trained doctor, that was the same practice used in Hungary as was used in USA. How do you know for a fact that it was not important in OZ when you were born? In the medical field everything requires documentation, one reason being for legal protection against medical malepractice. I am well aware that in India and other places some people (not many) do not know there time of birth or even date of birth or even year of birth. Why? Becuase I have had to try and rectify such cases. But for the vast majority of Indian people (and I have to deal with a lot) they have quite accurate birth times because instead of birth certificates they have Janma Patrikas -- horoscopes -- drawn up at the time of birth with all birth data recorded. This I have found for the vast majority of Indians that I deal with, very few (thankfully) have such hazy information about their birth data. But again my point was that when presented with a recorded birth time from a hospital record it is very highly likely to be correct to with in +/- 2 minutes at most and not in need of radical rectification. In my personal practice I accept them as accurate. I have seen some astraologers who have rectified recorded hospital birth times by 4 and even 6 hours! That is simply ridiculous, that the nurse got the birth time off by 4 hours. Yet they cliam that only by such rectification is the chart that of the person. Nonsense. One is much safer to just accept the recorded birth time as accurate. ____________ > Often times I see some astrologers radically "rectify" a recorded birth > time on the plea that nurses and doctors are not mindful of such things or > the importance of birth times. > > The following was sent to me by a client who is a delivery room nurse. > What she says is a lot different from what those astrologers have said. > > ___________________________ > > > > Regarding birthtimes. As a new Registered Nurse in a labor & Delivery > Unit I can say with strong conviction that once the baby is "out", ie, > cleared of the mother before the umbilical cord is cut, the nurse is > looking at the big clock on the wall and noting the time, since that time > has to be entered in the paperwork, in multiple places. We also note when > the placenta is out which is generally 2-5 minutes post-birth. The Dr. > announces this so we can record it as well. Once the Dr leaves the room > they need the birth time, placenta time, and birth weight to enter immed > into their paper work. So knowing the birthtime is vital, since it is > entered in so many places. > The same routine is followed at each birth so after a while the nurse > becomes quite good at noting birthtimes. Margin of error would only be 1 > or 2 minutes, but again, we are so good at gauging time that even if we > were involved with resusitating a blue baby we still know how many seconds > passes and can say :Baby born at 8:39. The hospital where I work is in > New York City and we do approx 2000 births a year, including c-sections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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