Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Haribol Rice and dal give you complete protein. In India milk is not the source of protein . certainly not soy. Dal and rice staple diet will keep you very strong. There is over emphasis on protein in USA. ys Labangalatika dasi - Noma T. Petroff <npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu> Noma Petroff <npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu> Cc: Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net> Sunday, May 08, 2005 12:17 AM Burros: Doubts Cloud Rosy News on Soy - NYT 01/26/2000 > One key document in the controversy about soy products is this New York Times > article from January 2000 by Marian Burros. Below is the first half of the > article, just to give an idea about some of the worries being presented. The > article is a little long, but I can send the complete article to anyone who is > interested. > > What does all this have to do with cow protection? The answer is: the problem > of protein. We must have protein to build and maintain muscles in our bodies. > > 1. Ideal solution: work the oxen and protect cows, then drink milk from the > cows. > > Unfortunately this solution is not available to most people right now. > Alternatives: > > 2. Eat meat. Objection: cruely to animals, bad karma, unhealthy for a number > of reasons. > > 3. Drink milk from commercial cows. Objection: exploitation of cows in modern > dairy practice (including slaughter and inhumane treatment), pollutants in > modern milk > > 4. Eat legumes such as soy beans. Be a vegan. Objection: Vegan diet is > unnatural. There is no history of a vegan community in the world before the > 20th century -- because vegan diet does not provide vitamin B12 needed for > brain and nerve tissue. In moder times artificial alternatives can be > produced. Not enough vitamin D for strong bones. New Objection: Dangers of > soy, such as dangers of soy isoflavones. > > 5. Combination of various paths above, mixing the dangers of several. > > ANSWER: There appears to be no clear cut answer to this whole dilemma. > > It almost seem like anyone who feels they have a smug answer to this situation > is either not in tune to the realities of life for most people, is ignorant, or > simply arrogant. What do others think? > > your servant, > > Hare Krsna dasi > > ************************************ > > New York Times 1/26/2000 > > Doubts Cloud Rosy News on Soy > > By Marian Burros > > > OVER the last several years, millions of Americans who had turned a deaf ear to > the virtues of soy have had a change of heart. Sales of the lowly bean, which > has been a staple of the Asian diet for millennia, have been skyrocketing > because preliminary research suggested that soy has many life-enhancing > benefits, from preventing bone density loss to easing some symptoms of > menopause. > > > In October, the federal government put its imprimatur on soy when it allowed > food companies to make the claim that soy protein reduces cholesterol and the > risk of heart disease. The other claims are still unproved, even though soy in > all its forms, from tofu and veggie burgers to shakes and supplements, is being > heavily promoted by its sellers as a panacea. The news media, too, have been > almost unanimous in praising its safety and efficacy. > > > Against the backdrop of widespread praise, however, there is growing suspicion > that soy -- despite its undisputed benefits -- may pose some health hazards. > The scientific world is divided over many of the claims for efficacy and over > some safety issues, but there are two points on which there is agreement. Soy > is useful for reducing cholesterol. And there may be an increased risk of > cancer associated with consuming the components of soy called isoflavones in > supplement form, particularly for post-menopausal women; and for these women, > there may also be hazards in adding soy foods to their diets. > > > Isoflavones, particularly genistein and daidzein, are phytoestrogens. These > plant chemicals, which have estrogen-like hormonal effects on the body, occur > naturally in soybeans and foods made from them. Compared with chemical > estrogens, the kind taken by women to reduce the symptoms of menopause, > phytoestrogens are weak, but they act the same way: they can both inhibit and > stimulate the growth of certain types of cells. > > > Not one of the 18 scientists interviewed for this column was willing to say > that taking isoflavones was risk free. Some particularly cautioned against it. > Dr. Margo Woods, an associate professor of medicine at Tufts University School > of Medicine, who specializes in nutrition and breast cancer, said: "As a food, > soy does a lot of great things, but once you start looking at different > components like phytoestrogens, you are talking about pharmacological things. > It's wiser to talk about soy and soy foods. A whole food behaves very > differently in the body than when you take one compound. We are looking into > the components, but we haven't been studying in the area long enough. I would > not recommend to anyone that they take isoflavones." > > > Even before the Food and Drug Administration approved the cholesterol-lowering > health claim for soy, sales were booming. In 1998, 770,000 metric tons of > soybeans were sold in this country to be turned into food products; in 1999 the > figure rose to 1.007 million metric tons. Total sales of soy foods in > supermarket chains during the 12 months ending in October were almost $420 > million, up 45 percent from the previous year's, according to Spins, a natural > products market research company in San Francisco. In natural food stores, > sales in the six months ending in October were up 37 percent from the previous > six-month period. Many large companies like Kellogg's, General Mills, Campbell > Soup and ConAgra are developing new soy products in response to the demand. > > > The biggest jump has been in soy supplements, the isoflavone pills, whose sales > were up 246 percent in the 12 months ending in October. But the carefully > worded health claim the Food and Drug Administration permits for cholesterol > reduction is for soy protein, not for isoflavones. To have that health claim on > its label, a food must be low in fat, saturated fat and cholesterol and contain > 6.5 grams of soy protein per serving. For the cholesterol-lowering effect, 25 > grams of soy protein must be added daily to a diet low in saturated fat and > cholesterol. > > > The scientists are worried that the public is interpreting the approval of soy > protein as a recommendation to take soy supplements, which generally have > higher levels of isoflavones than occur naturally in food. The highest levels > of naturally occurring isoflavones are found in soy beverages, cooked soybeans > and tempeh, and the range is wide. Some processed products, like sports bars, > have added isoflavones. Supplements can contain more than 85 milligrams of > isoflavones in a single pill, and some manufacturers advise taking two pills a > day. There are soy protein concentrate powders with as much as 160 milligrams > of isoflavones in a single serving. > > > "People don't distinguish isoflavones from soy protein," said Dr. Daniel > Sheehan, a research biologist at the F.D.A.'s National Center for Toxicological > Research in Jefferson, Ark. He also directs a program that studies endocrine > disrupters, which are chemicals like isoflavones with hormonal activity that > disrupts the endocrine system. "The approval of soy protein for cardiovascular > disease is going to lead to tremendous increase in the use of isoflavones, and > this rachets up concern levels," he added. For that reason, Dr. Sheehan opposed > the Food and Drug Administration's health claim label... 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