Official Ramakanta vs. IRM discussion thread

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Dear Yaduraja Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!

 

 

> If he did not want to be what he was (the sole diksa guru for ISKCON) then

> he obviously would not have done what he did (make himself recognised and

> accepted as such) would he?

 

This or the following contrapositive is what I ask you to prove (or admit

that it is unproven).

 

If Srila Prabhupada made himself recognized and accepted as X, then he

wanted to be X.

 

But I already gave you an example where this is not true: Srila Prabhupada

made himself recognized and accepted as a sannyasi. But he did not want to

take sannyasa.

 

Here is another example: In 1966 Srila Prabhupada made himself recognized

and accepted as the best cook in ISKCON. But from this you cannot conclude

that in 1966 he wanted to be the best cook in ISKCON.

 

 

> He could easily have not initiated anyone at all, just instruct for

> example.

 

On May 7 you wrote, "In the context of this debate multiple diksa gurus is

the opposite of sole diksa guru". So why are you now talking about 'no diksa

guru' as the opposite of 'sole diksa guru'?

 

 

> But instead he deliberately made himself recognised and accepted as the

> sole diksa guru for ISKCON in 1966.

>

> In the sentence you agree is proven the word ‘made’ is the verb or ‘doing

> word’ and ‘recognition and acceptance as the sole diksa guru’ is what he

> became (to be).

 

This is not a proof that in 1966 he wanted to be the sole diksa guru for

ISKCON. What is missing is a proof of following:

 

If Srila Prabhupada made himself recognized and accepted as X, then he

wanted to be X.

 

For example: If Srila Prabhupada made himself recognized and accepted as a

sannyasi, then he wanted to be a sannyasi.

 

 

And please do not waste time proving things that are already proven or that

I did not ask you to prove. Please do not again present a proof that Srila

Prabhupada made himself recognized and accepted as the sole diksa guru for

ISKCON, or that he wanted to do it, etc.

 

ys Ramakanta dasa