Official Ramakanta vs. IRM discussion thread

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Posted by Yaduraja on May 08, 2006:

 

Dear Ramakanta Prabhu,

PAMHO. AGTSP!

 

Firstly, for the record, none of your last post provides any validity to

your speculative challenge that Srila Prabhupada may have acted deliberately

to put himself into a position opposite to what he originally intended.

 

You wrote:

 

> Currently we are discussing what Srila Prabhupada wanted to be. So let us

> finish that point before we jump to other points.

>

> Your claim is:

>

> In 1966 Srila Prabhupada wanted to be the sole diksa guru for ISKCON.

>

> As a proof you presented following argument (not literally):

>

> In 1966 Srila Prabhupada made himself recognized and accepted as the sole

> diksa guru for ISKCON. Therefore, in 1966 he wanted to be the sole diksa

> guru for ISKCON.

>

> (Please correct me if this is not your argument).

 

Our argument is that the very fact that Srila Prabhupada made himself

accepted and recognised as the sole diksa guru for ISKCON proves that he set

things up like that deliberately, since all activity in Krishna

Consciousness is deliberate. Clearly Srila Prabhupada wanted to serve

Krishna, and Krishna has a plan. The plan must have been for Srila

Prabhupada to become the sole diksa guru for ISKCON since that is exactly

what happened, through deliberate actions by Srila Prabhupada.

 

Therefore at some point, no later than September 1966, Srila Prabhupada must

have decided to make himself accepted and recognised as the sole diksa guru

for ISKCON. If we are wrong then it would mean either that:

 

Krishna never planned to have Srila Prabhupada set up as the sole diksa guru

for ISKCON in 1966.

Or

Srila Prabhupada did not know what Krishna’s plan was.

Or

Srila Prabhupada wanted to do the opposite to Krishna’s plan, but was

thwarted by external events.

 

Take your pick. Or just accept our position as stated above and we can move

to point b).

 

“Every plan is made by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, but He is so kind

and merciful to His devotees that He wants to give the credit to His

devotees who carry out His plan according to His desire. Life should

therefore move in such a way that everyone acts in Krishna consciousness and

understands the Supreme Personality of Godhead through the medium of a

spiritual master. The plans of the Supreme Personality of Godhead are

understood by His mercy, and the plans of the devotees are as good as His

plans. One should follow such plans and be victorious in the struggle for

existence.” (Srila Prabhupada Bg 11.34 purport)

best wishes

ys

Yadu