Beware of Kali's agents

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Dear Bhadra Balaram Prabhu.

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

 

Thank you for your kind words. There were some encouraging moments, and some

interesting ones too. It's been quite a lesson for me, and I'm most

thankfull that you let me go through it, tolerating my outbursts. Future is

most certain, let it happen.

 

Thank you for all

 

your servant Giri-nayaka das

 

 

>

> just for yours and everyone else' information, i have removed your

> following text from Granddisciples confernce because suggestions and

> discussion is one thing, negative criticism without any solution is

> another, and as you know we on GD forum don't encourage nor allow such

> thing.

>

> prabhu, i agree that your text has some substance but offensive writing

> will take us nowhere. IMHO, you crossed the limit of vaisanva etiquette

> when you made comments about the GBC, which is Srila Prabhupada's direct

> representative. If you think they are not effective, pl write to them how

> you can assist them become effective as per your expectation. If you

> really want to bring some improvement in our society by your writing then

> i sincerely suggest you pl don't use language that you have used in your

> following text. i am afraid people will misunderstand you even if your

> intention is good. thank you for your understanding.

>

> Hare Krishna.

>

> ys, bbd

>

> > Dear Ramakanta Prabhu.

> > Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

> >

> > >

> > > Please consider following requirements for an email service for

> > > ISKCON:

> > >

> > > - The email system must offer conferencing.

> > > - Since some conferences (like the GBC conference) are sensitive, it

> > > must

> > > be possible to send mail from and to the conference encrypted.

> > > - It must be accessible from places like Mayapur where the connections

> > > are

> > > bad and Web interface or POP3 is very unpractical. So an off-line

> > > reader must be available that supports resuming of uploads and

> > > downloads, encrypted of course.

> > > - No unauthorized person must have access to the server hardware.

> > >

> > > I am not aware of any software except COM/WinCOM that fulfills all

> > > these requirements.

> >

> > Exactly. ISKCON should be happy, that we can be part of such

> > communication system, which is result of so many years of selfless hard

> > work, mostly by your good self.

> >

> > GBC can have their ideas of some new system, but one thing is words and

> > promises, another thing is reality. The point is that GBC cannot do such

> > a thing. Actually, GBC can do very little, almost nothing. They can have

> > some fun-meeting for few days once a year. But even updating their own

> > laws takes at least six years to complete!!!! So innefective, that it

> > almost hurts! They cannot even answer few simple questions regarding

> > their plans. Even from karmis you get quick answer, or at least a note,

> > that they received your letter and will answer it soon. Still we hear

> > such big words from our ISKCON Communications experts. Big words, but

> > too busy all the time, no time for anything. GBCs have no time to deal

> > with things, Gurus have no time to deal with their disciples, leaders

> > have no time to deal with their subordinates. Everybody is so busy

> > preaching, getting more and more new people. But overall number is

> > decreasing. More are leaving than comming. Getting more new people to

> > replace the old ones.... Something is very wrong arround here. Anyway,

> > time will show what is what, and thats the good thing.

> >

> > >

> > > And please don't turn ISKCON into a sect where media and communication

> > > is controlled by the leaders.

> >

> > I know. But in reality, it is such a sect already. I was censured from

> > several local PAMHO forums by local leaders. "No wonder", one would

> > say... Yes, I deserve it, I'm a bit harsh sometimes.... But the fact

> > is, that there is whimsical censoring, and communication is controlled

> > by leaders. And if nothing else is done, one gets labeled as ritvik or

> > something similar. You get some label sooner or later. We can see how

> > everybody gets upset, if some ritvik invites ISKCON devotees to his

> > seminar. But when they knock us down with their karmi managment and

> > self-growth seminars and mediations and similar nonsense, thats ok, and

> > we should just buy it. Ehhhh....

> >

> > your servant Giri-nayaka das