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So the boy shaved up because a devotee (in this case Dhira Govinda Prabhu)

encouraged him to shave up, and he had a previous history of association

with devotees--growing up around them, in fact. So that is a nice ending.

 

I will also note that, as far as the ethics of the modern counseling

profession are concerned, it is generally considered unethical for a

therapist to push someone in such a direction (to shave up or join or not

join a particular religion). So the encouragement to do so had to at least

take place outside of the setting of a client / therapist relationship.

 

 

On Fri, 12 May 2006 08:06 +0200, Tattvavit (das) ACBSP (BBT) <

Tattvavit.ACBSP (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote:

>

> Dear Devotees,

>

> PAMHO.

>

> I am in New Simhachalam (Germany) for the Nrsimha-caturdasi festival,

> where

> I was able to speak with two of the devotees we are discussing.

>

> Ajamila Prabhu wrote:

> > We know the ritviks are recruiting on some small scale, so I don't see

> > whats the point in posting such info here as to suggest they merit our

> > valuable time.

>

> Today I met the teenager I told you about. He said that D G pushed him to

> shave up and join a temple rather than waiting an indefinitely long time.

>

> Basu Ghosh Prabhu forwarded this accurate assessment:

> > > We know that the notion to join an ashram never occurs to

> > > the vast majority of people who go to a therapist, yet it frequently

> > > occurs to people who associate regularly with devotees. It is most

> > > likely that the boy has had sufficient contact with devotees in the

> > > past, and that because the course was taken in the association of

> > > devotees. That additional association was what he needed to inpsire

> him

> > > to join the ashrama.

>

> Yes. This teenager also said that although he grew up around devotees, he

> had become bored by their association; during the course, in the

> association

> of young devotees like himself from Germany and Austria, however, he began

> to want more sat-sanga.

>

> As for D G's course, this teenager said that the contents of it impressed

> him at the time, but now the course seems to him less valuable than he

> first

> thought.

>

> Babhru Prabhu wrote:

> > what specifically in DG's course does Parivadhi prabhu see as

> > violating "KC moral principles"?

>

> Today I sat with Parivadi Prabhu on a bus going to Passau for a big

> harinama, and he said that he meant mixing between the sexes. It seems

> that

> he took this as an effect of the course because, after taking the course,

> one married woman he knows approached him in a parking lot with open arms

> and hugged him. "This is unclean," he said with a special German sort of

> disdain. He elaborated a bit on this theme and said that Srila

> Prabhupada's

> movement is not meant to accommodate such open displays of physical

> intimacy, but nowadays we are seeing this.

>

> I should add that this festival here is wonderful. Please see

> >simhachalam.de< for photos of Sri Sri Prahlad-Nrsimha dressed in outfits

> made of (1) turmeric, (2) butter, (3) leaves, and (4) pavitras.

>

> --ys, td

>

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