Guest guest Posted June 17, 2000 Report Share Posted June 17, 2000 In a message dated 6/17/00 3:35:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, vedicstars writes: << Please give me insight to understand how Venus brought evil to this native when he started Venus Maha Dasa. >> Hi, I haven't looked at this specific chart, but Das wrote something wonderful about Venus and how it can lead one astray a while back. I have Sagittarius lagna, and Venus is not a good planet for me. Das's comments were about how Venus, if a malific, leads one into sensuality, sugar consumption, over use of the senses, craving for luxury, and so forth. He can say it better than I can. Lalia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2000 Report Share Posted June 17, 2000 Please send us complete chart, or at least time zone with the data next time. Please see my comments below: > How would an experienced astrologer have known this man would > specifically go to jail? How to understand Venus manifesting evil in > this way? > Guru is atmakarak and tends to punish the person. It rules 12.house and is vakra(retrograde) in mrita avasta, negatively aspected by venus/mercury,and in unfavourable navamsa.Guru is furthermore in 12.house from Arudha Lagna. Guru is placed as ruler of 12(jails) in venus nakshatra, unfavourable bharani having a nature of rahu. Badhakesh(the chief obstructor) is Saturn and is placed in 6.house of charges with surya. It is in leo navamsa with sun/rahu, thus the main badhaka in the chart was given through surya/rahu.Being in fixed rashi, no amount of propitioation will help. > I understand that venus is enemy to ac.and is a strong maraka,etc.but > how did it send him to jail? Or was it Venus set the stage and > Jupiter finished the job. Venus is together with mercury which is not good, as mercury is evil lord from lagna and markesh from AL. However, venus rules arudha lagna and is strong in 6.house in own sign, thus should help him go out in venus mahadasha Best wishes, Zoran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2000 Report Share Posted June 18, 2000 gjlist , Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa@p...> wrote: > Please send us complete chart, or at least time zone with the data > next time. Please see my comments below: > > > How would an experienced astrologer have known this man would > > specifically go to jail? How to understand Venus manifesting evil in > > this way? > > > > Guru is atmakarak and tends to punish the person. It rules 12.house > and is vakra(retrograde) in mrita avasta, negatively aspected by > venus/mercury,and in unfavourable navamsa.Guru is furthermore in > 12.house from Arudha Lagna. Guru is placed as ruler of 12(jails) > in venus nakshatra, unfavourable bharani having a nature of rahu. > Badhakesh(the chief obstructor) is Saturn and is placed in 6.house > of charges with surya. It is in leo navamsa with sun/rahu, thus the > main badhaka in the chart was given through surya/rahu.Being in > fixed rashi, no amount of propitioation will help. > > > I understand that venus is enemy to ac.and is a strong maraka,etc.but > > how did it send him to jail? Or was it Venus set the stage and > > Jupiter finished the job. > > Venus is together with mercury which is not good, as mercury is > evil lord from lagna and markesh from AL. However, venus rules > arudha lagna and is strong in 6.house in own sign, thus should help > him go out in venus mahadasha > Best wishes, > Zoran Namaste Thank-you Mr.Zoran for your reply! Im sorry that I gave incomplete data.Time zone is 6:00 DOB 10-11-1952 18:05:00 90W2 30N42 Near Mobile,Al. U.S.A.I believe this is correct time. Do you use Lahiri ayanamsa?I would really appreciate you and/or anybody else that as a viewpoint looking again to this chart,now that you have correct data.This is my first time posting so thank-you for responding as this has perplexed me.Somewhere I read that Venus is connected with the judicial system but Ive beeen unable to go back and find it as I read so many books.In B.V.Raman book he gives as a yoga for incarceration."If lord of Lagna and the 6th join a kendra or a trikona with Saturn, or the nodes" than Bandhana Yoga is given. In the chart I have for him Jup 9th lord and Mars 1st lord are in Parivartana exchange.And Jupiter in friends sign-Aires, is aspecting his own 9th house.In Navamsa Jup is owning the 9th in his friends sign-scorpio being aspected again by Mars 5th lord. Moon (9th day waning) but in own house,with digbala in 4th and in a kendra from Jup.Moon Is with Ketu though--I was just wondering why the benefic placements arent stronger than the placements for such SEVERE karma.Of course jup also owns 12th,mars is aspecting that house also as 1st and 8th lord.Jup. is 12th lord in 1st.So its mixed. It is Venus Maha Dasa when this began so am I wrong in beleiving that it must be Venus who is responsible?Also I read that for long term imprisonment the 4th lord-as residence,must be involved.Moon is 10th from Venus. Also, isnt the Arudha Lagna figured by counting as many signs away from the house- from where the lord of that house has gone?In this case if Mars is lord of Lagna and he is in 9th wouldnt Aruha Lagna then be 5th house,with Leo?Counting 9 signs from his placement.Jup. would be in 9th from,and venus would be in 3rd from. Any comments would be appreciated.Hope this post wasnt too long.Thank- you, again. Laksmi vedicstars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2000 Report Share Posted June 20, 2000 Sorry to keep you waiting. I am really very busy at the moment. > Namaste > Do you use Lahiri ayanamsa? Yes. > Also, isnt the Arudha Lagna figured by counting as many signs away > from the house- from where the lord of that house has gone?In this > case if Mars is lord of Lagna and he is in 9th wouldnt Aruha Lagna > then be 5th house,with Leo?Counting 9 signs from his placement.Jup. > would be in 9th from,and venus would be in 3rd from. Yes, you are right. It was my mistake. Venus is in 3.house from AL . Please note that AL lord is placed in 5.house with saturn,badhaka. I will have to stop here.Hopefully someone will be less busy to answer this. Will join later, Best wishes, Zoran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2000 Report Share Posted June 22, 2000 --- thanks zoran!! read your message good luck Send instant messages with Messenger. http://im./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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