Conception, Essence of Progress (4 Bhola O.)

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Namaste, Dasji,

 

Thanks for the Enlightening Thoughts.

 

Have to go now, and sit on a rock and think about all

this...

 

peace to u,

Mu

--- Das <> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Bhola,

>

> Thanks for your good question to the list regarding

> conception time

> verse birth time, what is important, and so on.

>

> All things are in the unfoldment of the modes of

> nature. The modes of

> nature expand from Divinity in the beginning, and

> their intermingling

> and complex churning are called "life".

>

> All things are in Jyotish's perview.

>

> The conception chart, or Muhurtha, or moment, is

> completely valid and

> important. So if one is able to understand Jyotish

> properly, they can

> pick times for impregnation which are auspicious for

> them and the

> possible child.

>

> The conception chart rules the conception up to

> birth, and is highly

> important because it rules over the developmental

> phase of the body in

> the womb. The birth chart then shows us how that

> newly developed body

> will suffer and enjoy in life outside the womb,

> which we call "it's

> life". But actually, "it's life" began in THIS body

> at conception.

> Therefore, great stress IS layed upon the conception

> practices in the Puranas.

>

> The Vishnu purana and other Sacred instructions from

> pure-hearted Saints

> and Sages tell us something about how to go about

> joining together in

> order to make love for conceiving auspicious

> children. I am not expert

> on that list of recommendatons, and I won't try to

> repeat a faulty

> abreviated list or anything, plus many things may be

> culturally odd, or

> difficult to arrange, etc., so for various reasons I

> won't go into that,

> but the point is, that ALIGNING oneself with REALITY

> through

> understanding Jyotish and picking proper times is a

> good idea for

> everything important, and doing so is a PRIVELAGE of

> being a human of a

> higher birth. The higher one's birth, the more one

> enters the plain of

> knowledge, and is able to do such things.

>

> As one surrenders to the path of light, or said

> another way, as one

> aligns oneself with truth or God, one is actually

> aligning oneself with

> reality proper. Their gunas and doshas become

> balanced, which is a sign

> of alignment with reality. Actually, if you look

> into it in detail, for

> such persons, you will find they NATURALLY pick

> better Muhurthas,

> without even trying.

>

> If you look into the lives of those who are

> specifically currently

> engaging in activities and seemingly always having

> bad luck, always

> being rejected, always being frustrated, and so on,

> then you will find

> that they naturally pick bad Muhurthas. People who

> have "bad charts" or

> highly challenged charts are misaligned with their

> own best interests.

> So the way that karma comes out in life is in these

> kinds of

> "malalignments of action" in order for them to

> suffer and learn. Thus

> BPHS says basically that the planets deliver our

> karma to us.

>

> According to one's present state of alignment with

> Divinity, or in other

> words, according to one's chart, one will meet a

> certain lover or

> spouse, copulate at a certain time and place, and

> accordingly the

> Muhurtha of conception is set "by accident".

> Actually it's no accident

> at all. The transits at that time, against the

> charts of the pair, will

> tell the relative virtues and faults of their union,

> and thus forms the

> conception chart of the child. If it is positive and

> good, then so will

> be the growth phase.

>

> Wherever the planets are in transit during that nine

> months, those

> magnetic or other subtle "Jyoti" influences are felt

> by the developing

> flesh in the womb just as they are felt by all atoms

> and molecules

> throughout the Universe. The signs and daily charts

> of that part are

> affecting the growth of the child and all it's

> formative realities

> including the nature of it's every quality and

> characteristic, but so

> also is the nature of the mothers body, which is

> born of previous Jyoti

> influences in some previous period, and thus we are

> related to our

> parents karma, and the karma of the society in which

> she eats and

> breathes etc. In this way we can trace the

> "material" connection to

> parental/societal karma. If she eats the garbage

> food of our culture,

> then our body is built of that quality to some

> effectual degree, and we

> suffer accordingly, or the reverse if the reverse is

> ruling her actions.

>

> So then, the birth chart represents the moment of

> "Completion of

> Formation" and "Graduation to independence". We read

> the birth chart

> because it pertains to the phase of life which we

> see and discuss with

> each other.

>

> If one conceives a child taking consideration of

> their own karma, and

> what is best for them, and the child, and so on, one

> is acting like as a

> Devic person, and such thoughts and attempts will

> align one with

> Divinity more and more creating a better future, in

> this and the next life.

>

> Jyotish is an external science directly related to

> the process of life,

> which shows us that aligning ourselves (making

> Spiritual advancement)

> with God, is a good idea for material life, and thus

> we can realize that

> those who are fully devoted to Divinity, and who

> naturally follow with

> their lives, words, actions, etc., the path of

> Devotion to God, are

> already situated in realization of the essence of

> the Vedas. This is

> stated in the Srimad Bhagavatam and also in the

> Gita.

>

> One should pick auspicious times for all important

> Muhurthas, or,

> another way, is to actually try to be in a state of

> Grace, or service to

> Divinity, in which case one will automatically pick

> good times. The

> meter then is sincerity to serve. There is no

> kidding or fooling God.

> You can fool yourself and others too, and in this

> way be deluded, but

> real sincerity is recognized by God, and so is

> everything else.

> According to the degree we've suffered and want to

> be actually rectified

> and devoted, to that degree we are rewarded. This is

> stated in the Gita.

>

> Jyotish is a mechanical process for approaching

> alignment, and it does

> not require the client of an astrologer to even be a

> Theist. So, Jyotish

> doesn't guarantee alignment with God as commonly

> used where one person

> helps another for a fee, but that will still work to

> some degree for the

> client, since they will be getting proper

> instruction should the

> astrologer be somewhat realized in truth. This is

> how the Rakshashas in

> the scriptures were able to accomplish alot- they

> used Vedic knowledge,

> but were in their hearts not surrendered to Vishnu.

> "Yantra" or

> mechanics, can be used by anyone. The Universe is

> mechanical.

>

> The pure heart is the best guide. Paramatma will not

> lie to you, but you

>

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