Guest guest Posted August 30, 2000 Report Share Posted August 30, 2000 Dear Carol, Why do you like my postings? Your Moon is in Vasiya to my Moon. Vasiya is like magnetic attraction, you are attracted to my thinking. My Sun and Venus fall in your 7th house also. Your Moon is in my navamsha lagna and we share the same navamsha lagna in Aries. In our navamsha charts your Sun falls on my Venus in the 7th from my Moon. My navamsha Moon falls on your Sun and Venus in the rashi chart. Your Mars aspects my Venus in the navamsha and also the rashi position. As I said before the magnetic power of the planets bring people together. A womens Mars aspecting a mans Venus is the best aspect for sexual attraction and even close friendship. If man and women aren't meant to be sexually attracted to each other, then just what are they suppossed to be attracted to? Why do we feel so guilty about something so natural. I no longer do but a lot of people still suffer silently and repress their intimate feelings and needs. Isn't it just the warty outgrowth of dogmatic religous teachings badly interpreted in order to control and manipulate people? Skinbags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Hello Skinbags, I have a few questions, if you do not mind my asking. >A womens Mars aspecting a mans Venus is the best aspect for sexual >attraction and even close friendship. Why must it be the woman's Mars and not the Man's. Is it because Mars represents the sex partner in a woman's chart, and Venus in a man's? Where did you learn this information? Can I get it in a book, or was it taught to you? Thanks, Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Skinbags: >- >Dear Carol, > >Why do you like my postings? Your Moon is in Vasiya to my Moon. Vasiya is like magnetic attraction, you are attracted to my thinking. My Sun and Venus fall in your 7th house also. Your Moon is in my navamsha lagna and we share the same navamsha lagna in Aries. In our navamsha charts your Sun falls on my Venus in the 7th from my Moon. My navamsha Moon falls on your Sun and Venus in the rashi chart. Your Mars aspects my Venus in the navamsha and also the rashi position. As I said before the magnetic power of the planets bring people together. A womens Mars aspecting a mans Venus is the best aspect for sexual attraction and even close friendship. If man and women aren't meant to be sexually attracted to each other, then just what are they suppossed to be attracted to? Why do we feel so guilty about something so natural. This may come as a shock to you, but it IS possible for a man to have a non-sexual relationship with a woman. It happens every day. I could be wrong, but your views may come from the fact that your chart is highly sexualized (7L Sun conj Venus, etc). This is not to say that they very well might be some kind of attraction between you and Carol, as your analysis suggests. But you seem to discount the possibility that it could be any other way. For many of us without such a highly-sexed horoscope, let me say there are other ways of looking at this. I no longer do but a lot of people still suffer silently and repress their intimate feelings and needs. Isn't it just the warty outgrowth of dogmatic religous teachings badly interpreted in order to control and manipulate people? I think this sounds appealing but really is ignores what astrology teaches us: we're all different. So what you attribute to an oppressive guilt-inducing ideology, can indeed be traced back to a native's horoscope. Some people are more likely to find fault with these "natural feelings" through various mental structures including religion, tradition, political inclination or whatever. I'm no fan repressive religions either, but I have to respect people's beliefs and moreover, what can one do about a horoscope that indicates low sex drive, or problems expressing sexual feelings? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 - Christopher Kevill <ckevill <gjlist > Thursday, August 31, 2000 9:43 PM Re: [gjlist] Why? > > Skinbags: > > >- > >Dear Carol, > > > >Why do you like my postings? Your Moon is in Vasiya to my Moon. Vasiya is > like magnetic attraction, you are attracted to my thinking. My Sun and > Venus fall in your 7th house also. Your Moon is in my navamsha lagna and we > share the same navamsha lagna in Aries. In our navamsha charts your Sun > falls on my Venus in the 7th from my Moon. My navamsha Moon falls on your > Sun and Venus in the rashi chart. Your Mars aspects my Venus in the > navamsha and also the rashi position. As I said before the magnetic power > of the planets bring people together. A womens Mars aspecting a mans Venus > is the best aspect for sexual attraction and even close friendship. If man > and women aren't meant to be sexually attracted to each other, then just > what are they suppossed to be attracted to? Why do we feel so guilty about > something so natural. > > This may come as a shock to you, but it IS possible for a man to have a > non-sexual relationship with a woman. It happens every day. I could be > wrong, but your views may come from the fact that your chart is highly > sexualized (7L Sun conj Venus, etc). This is not to say that they very > well might be some kind of attraction between you and Carol, as your > analysis suggests. But you seem to discount the possibility that it could > be any other way. For many of us without such a highly-sexed horoscope, > let me say there are other ways of looking at this. I am talking more about potentials and influences. Yes a person will analyse a chart with the elements that are strong in their own chart. You are a good foil for my sword as you take a serious and sober look at things. You must have a strong Saturn and perhaps a strong Mercury. Why don't you post your chart and we'll have a look. People with a strong Mars and Venus like me always put a strong sexual emphasis into a reading. However, I will say many people will beat around the bush and make up other problems when it is something about sex that is really bothering them. Guilt is a big problem for many people. Many men in particular will make friends with a woman first with seduction firmly in the back of their minds for later. Hey! I own a very busy restaurant and have watched the mating ritual every night for years. It's fascinating . Thailand has also been a fertile research location as well. > > I no longer do but a lot of people still suffer silently and repress their > intimate feelings and needs. Isn't it just the warty outgrowth of dogmatic > religous teachings badly interpreted in order to control and manipulate > people? > > I think this sounds appealing but really is ignores what astrology teaches > us: we're all different. So what you attribute to an oppressive > guilt-inducing ideology, can indeed be traced back to a native's horoscope. > Some people are more likely to find fault with these "natural feelings" > through various mental structures including religion, tradition, political > inclination or whatever. I'm no fan repressive religions either, but I have > to respect people's beliefs and moreover, what can one do about a horoscope > that indicates low sex drive, or problems expressing sexual feelings? > Look I would really like to look at your chart. Yes, some people really by nature have no big interest in sex and there is nothing wrong with this at all. What I think I am really trying to say is you must match up people who are sexually compatible and it can be a disaster if one person cannot satisfy the partners needs. This can lead to violence or emotional suffering. I honestly do not think we should under estimate the importance of this. Strongly sexed people will of course agree with me, others may think I'm a dickhead. I will endevour to post some more thoughts on relationships tommorow. I recently spoke with a Thai Pundit and his ideas were very good on certain aspects of matchmaking. I do think astrology is a tremendously powerful tool for relationship compatibilty checking. I almost think it should be manditory. > Chris > > > gjlist- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2000 Report Share Posted September 3, 2000 Andrew: >> >Dear Carol, >> > >> >Why do you like my postings? Your Moon is in Vasiya to my Moon. Vasiya is >> like magnetic attraction, you are attracted to my thinking. My Sun and >> Venus fall in your 7th house also. Your Moon is in my navamsha lagna and >we >> share the same navamsha lagna in Aries. In our navamsha charts your Sun >> falls on my Venus in the 7th from my Moon. My navamsha Moon falls on your >> Sun and Venus in the rashi chart. Your Mars aspects my Venus in the >> navamsha and also the rashi position. As I said before the magnetic power >> of the planets bring people together. A womens Mars aspecting a mans Venus >> is the best aspect for sexual attraction and even close friendship. If man >> and women aren't meant to be sexually attracted to each other, then just >> what are they suppossed to be attracted to? Why do we feel so guilty about >> something so natural. >> >> This may come as a shock to you, but it IS possible for a man to have a >> non-sexual relationship with a woman. It happens every day. I could be >> wrong, but your views may come from the fact that your chart is highly >> sexualized (7L Sun conj Venus, etc). This is not to say that they very >> well might be some kind of attraction between you and Carol, as your >> analysis suggests. But you seem to discount the possibility that it could >> be any other way. For many of us without such a highly-sexed horoscope, >> let me say there are other ways of looking at this. > > I am talking more about potentials and influences. Yes a person will >analyse a chart with the elements that are strong in their own chart. You >are a good foil for my sword as you take a serious and sober look at things. >You must have a strong Saturn and perhaps a strong Mercury. Why don't you >post your chart and we'll have a look. People with a strong Mars and Venus >like me always put a strong sexual emphasis into a reading. However, I will >say many people will beat around the bush and make up other problems when it >is something about sex that is really bothering them. Guilt is a big problem >for many people. Many men in particular will make friends with a woman first >with seduction firmly in the back of their minds for later. Hey! I own a >very busy restaurant and have watched the mating ritual every night for >years. It's fascinating . Thailand has also been a fertile research location >as well. Obviously, the eternal mating dance lies just beneath the surface of many interactions. My only point was that you have to be careful about projecting your own biases onto other people. Looking at horoscopes and seeing sexual people vs. relatively non-sexual people is the starting point. A much greater interpretative problem arises when one goes beyond that. Like what are we to make of someone is not as interested in sex and, say, someone like yourself. Is it dysfunctional? Is this abnormal, should it be treated as an affliction in the chart, worthy or remedial measures, counselling or whatever else? It's quite tricky since it all assumes that *something* is normal. As I have told you in private emails, I am not as sexually motivated as you likely are. I have neutered Mercury very near the 7th cusp, and a dussthana placement of 7th lord Moon aspected by Saturn. This points to a reigning in of sexual expression, to be sure, while at the same time Mars makes an exact square to my Venus. So, yeah, there's a certain amount of conflict over the whole issue of sex and intimacy. But then again, many people have *some* degree of psychological difficulty over sex. On the whole, I think people make their peace with what they have in their lives (or in their charts) and move on from there. But have a whirl at it if you like: Aug 18 1960 19.45 EDT Toronto 43n39 79w22 his can lead to violence or emotional >suffering. I honestly do not think we should under estimate the importance >of this. Strongly sexed people will of course agree with me, others may >think I'm a dickhead. I will endevour to post some more thoughts on >relationships tommorow. I recently spoke with a Thai Pundit and his ideas >were very good on certain aspects of matchmaking. Do tell about the Thai astrologer. They have a real melange of astrological systems in Thailand. The predominant chart form is the East Bengal chart which is vaguely similar to the North Indian style. Both zodiacs are used, although I believe the sidereal is more popular amongst the serious astrologers. The Outers are also fairly common. So it's an interesting mix of Indian and western approaches there. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Seeing as I am the 'Carol' in discussion here...I would like to add my two cents...We astrologers have developed a gift...we have mastered a science to the best of our ability. Whether someone likes red shoelaces, or blue shoelaces (hypothetical) is irrevelent...what the major issue should be to all of us is that the Birth chart, whether Eastern, Western, Chinese, Fung Shui astrology, etc...the birth chart is ONLY a tool. We are all counselors in the making and the chart is but a tool to help facilitate a healing so that real spiritual growth may be the next step for our clients. If we introduce sensitive issues that hinder someone's progress, what good have we done? Whether someone has a t-square or an opposition of planets is also irrespective...fine, look at these things and remind yourself how to approach the client we are reading for, but lets not let these places people can be stuck be what we focus on...the birth chart is mean to be ONLY a tool to assist the reader to assist the client in facilitating core issues in an empowering and enriching manner...we are counselors that have the ability to move people in the best direction for that particular person to gain the growth they are meant to experience from the painfull life experiences they are undergoing, and with the correct choice of words (not from our own rose-colored reference points) we can truely be helpers of the highest magnitude, to help process and facilitate growth....true growth...not just hype and term-jargon! --- Christopher Kevill <ckevill wrote: > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > > Andrew: > > >> >Dear Carol, > >> > > >> >Why do you like my postings? Your Moon is in > Vasiya to my Moon. Vasiya is > >> like magnetic attraction, you are attracted to my > thinking. My Sun and > >> Venus fall in your 7th house also. Your Moon is > in my navamsha lagna and > >we > >> share the same navamsha lagna in Aries. In our > navamsha charts your Sun > >> falls on my Venus in the 7th from my Moon. My > navamsha Moon falls on your > >> Sun and Venus in the rashi chart. Your Mars > aspects my Venus in the > >> navamsha and also the rashi position. As I said > before the magnetic power > >> of the planets bring people together. A womens > Mars aspecting a mans Venus > >> is the best aspect for sexual attraction and even > close friendship. If man > >> and women aren't meant to be sexually attracted > to each other, then just > >> what are they suppossed to be attracted to? Why > do we feel so guilty about > >> something so natural. > >> > >> This may come as a shock to you, but it IS > possible for a man to have a > >> non-sexual relationship with a woman. It > happens every day. I could be > >> wrong, but your views may come from the fact that > your chart is highly > >> sexualized (7L Sun conj Venus, etc). This is not > to say that they very > >> well might be some kind of attraction between you > and Carol, as your > >> analysis suggests. But you seem to discount the > possibility that it could > >> be any other way. For many of us without such a > highly-sexed horoscope, > >> let me say there are other ways of looking at > this. > > > > I am talking more about potentials and > influences. Yes a person will > >analyse a chart with the elements that are strong > in their own chart. You > >are a good foil for my sword as you take a serious > and sober look at things. > >You must have a strong Saturn and perhaps a strong > Mercury. Why don't you > >post your chart and we'll have a look. People with > a strong Mars and Venus > >like me always put a strong sexual emphasis into a > reading. However, I will > >say many people will beat around the bush and make > up other problems when it > >is something about sex that is really bothering > them. Guilt is a big problem > >for many people. Many men in particular will make > friends with a woman first > >with seduction firmly in the back of their minds > for later. Hey! I own a > >very busy restaurant and have watched the mating > ritual every night for > >years. It's fascinating . Thailand has also been a > fertile research location > >as well. > > Obviously, the eternal mating dance lies just > beneath the surface of many > interactions. My only point was that you have to be > careful about > projecting your own biases onto other people. > Looking at horoscopes and > seeing sexual people vs. relatively non-sexual > people is the starting > point. A much greater interpretative problem arises > when one goes beyond > that. Like what are we to make of someone is not as > interested in sex and, > say, someone like yourself. Is it dysfunctional? > Is this abnormal, should > it be treated as an affliction in the chart, worthy > or remedial measures, > counselling or whatever else? It's quite tricky > since it all assumes that > *something* is normal. As I have told you in > private emails, I am not as > sexually motivated as you likely are. I have > neutered Mercury very near > the 7th cusp, and a dussthana placement of 7th lord > Moon aspected by > Saturn. This points to a reigning in of sexual > expression, to be sure, > while at the same time Mars makes an exact square to > my Venus. So, yeah, > there's a certain amount of conflict over the whole > issue of sex and > intimacy. But then again, many people have *some* > degree of psychological > difficulty over sex. On the whole, I think people > make their peace with > what they have in their lives (or in their charts) > and move on from there. > But have a whirl at it if you like: Aug 18 1960 > 19.45 EDT Toronto 43n39 79w22 > > his can lead to violence or emotional > >suffering. I honestly do not think we should under > estimate the importance > >of this. Strongly sexed people will of course agree > with me, others may > >think I'm a dickhead. I will endevour to post some > more thoughts on > >relationships tommorow. I recently spoke with a > Thai Pundit and his ideas > >were very good on certain aspects of matchmaking. > > Do tell about the Thai astrologer. They have a real > melange of > astrological systems in Thailand. The predominant > chart form is the East > Bengal chart which is vaguely similar to the North > Indian style. Both > zodiacs are used, although I believe the sidereal is > more popular amongst > the serious astrologers. The Outers are also fairly > common. So it's an > interesting mix of Indian and western approaches > there. > > Chris > > > > gjlist- > > > ===== http://www.spirit-links.com Astrological Introductions, Compatibility Profiles, Electronic Greetings, Psychic Web Portal, Relationship Answers, Individual Tarot Readings, Matchmaker Services and MORE! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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