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Hi -

 

I'm new to the list so please bear with me if I ask any questions that

may seem juvenile or are somehow inappropriate. I'm just curious about

Vedic Astrology.

 

I've been trying to understand how Vedic Astrology works and when I

visited India some years back I was simply dismissed saying that us

"americanized-indians" wouldn't get it.

 

How exactly would I go about getting a "chart" reading done? And to

this "chart", if I were born in India but raised in America, wouldn't

the stars/planets that affect me change since I've moved to a different

hemisphere? How is this accounted for when people do "chart" readings.

Is the position of the planets when I was born factored in or when I was

born and were I was born? If I was born under a given hemisphere where

the stars/planets are seen one way, how do you take into account where

you were raised and how the star/planet alignment is from that second

hemisphere? Am I confused about how these charts are done?

 

What would be some suggested readings to learn more about this? Does

this group have website? What are good online resources to learn more

about this?

 

Thanks inadvance,

 

-=lata=-

[Guest guest]

Hi!

 

Let me take a shot at your questions. I am also a new

comer to Astrology (Vedic or Western).

 

>

> I'm new to the list so please bear with me if I ask

> any questions that may seem juvenile or are somehow

inappropriate. I'm just curious about Vedic Astrology.

 

 

Nothing to worry. Curiosity...etc., are not applicable

in here!!

 

> I've been trying to understand how Vedic Astrology

> works and when I visited India some years back I was

simply dismissed saying that us "americanized-indians"

wouldn't get it.

> How exactly would I go about getting a "chart"

> reading done?

 

All that you need is accurate time of your birth, date

of your birth and place of your birth. There are many

superly qualified on this list to do analysis of your

chart(as I said before I am too inexperienced to

venture it!)

 

>And to this "chart", if I were born in India but

>raised in America, wouldn't the stars/planets that

>affect me change since I've moved to a different

>hemisphere? How is this accounted for when people do

>"chart" readings.

> Is the position of the planets when I was born

> factored in or when I was born and were I was born?

If I was born under a given hemisphere where

> the stars/planets are seen one way, how do you take

> into account where

> you were raised and how the star/planet alignment is

> from that second

> hemisphere? Am I confused about how these charts are

> done?

 

As both of us are beginners, let us keep the

discussion at a basic level. The position of planets

is a snap shot at the time of birth(given location).

This position 'reveals' the course of one's entire

life(and beyond as well as before),from birth to

death.

 

The subsequent journey of planets (called transits)

work as trigger points for the events of life.

 

> What would be some suggested readings to learn more

> about this? Does this group have website? What are

good online resources to learn more about this?

 

Good starting point is Das Goravani's lessons on his

web site. (GJ stands for Goravani Jyitishya and I

preume you have visited his site.)

 

My pleasure writing this bit so that a new comer is

not disappointed.

 

Vishy

 

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Phone: +44 (0)79 46 48 52 48

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

An excellent reference material for understanding is

written by William R.Levacy...called, "beneath a Vedic

Shy" and in the end of the book is a cd from Das

Goravani ...it is a book complete in itself to assist

a newcomer. And then there is James Braha...with

several titles..."Ancient Hindu Ast5rology for the

Modern Western Astrologer", "How to be a Great

Astrologer with planetary aspects explained", also by

Braha, "How to Predict Your Future; Secrets of Eastern

and Western Astrology", by Braha and "Aspects in Vedic

Astrology" by Pandit Gopesh Kumar Ojha. These titles

sum it all up for you to understand the vedic way.

Good Luck

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> Hi -

>

> I'm new to the list so please bear with me if I ask

> any questions that

> may seem juvenile or are somehow inappropriate. I'm

> just curious about

> Vedic Astrology.

>

> I've been trying to understand how Vedic Astrology

> works and when I

> visited India some years back I was simply dismissed

> saying that us

> "americanized-indians" wouldn't get it.

>

> How exactly would I go about getting a "chart"

> reading done? And to

> this "chart", if I were born in India but raised in

> America, wouldn't

> the stars/planets that affect me change since I've

> moved to a different

> hemisphere? How is this accounted for when people do

> "chart" readings.

> Is the position of the planets when I was born

> factored in or when I was

> born and were I was born? If I was born under a

> given hemisphere where

> the stars/planets are seen one way, how do you take

> into account where

> you were raised and how the star/planet alignment is

> from that second

> hemisphere? Am I confused about how these charts are

> done?

>

> What would be some suggested readings to learn more

> about this? Does

> this group have website? What are good online

> resources to learn more

> about this?

>

> Thanks inadvance,

>

> -=lata=-

>

>

> gjlist-

>

>

>

 

 

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hs vishwanatham wrote:

> All that you need is accurate time of your birth, date

> of your birth and place of your birth. There are many

> superly qualified on this list to do analysis of your

> chart(as I said before I am too inexperienced to

> venture it!)

 

well i was born 8pm on january 20th 1971 in calcutta india but i don't

know exactly where in calcutta. does this make a difference?

 

> discussion at a basic level. The position of planets

> is a snap shot at the time of birth(given location).

> This position 'reveals' the course of one's entire

> life(and beyond as well as before),from birth to

> death.

>

> The subsequent journey of planets (called transits)

> work as trigger points for the events of life.

 

so when these readings are done, are these transits or trigger points

taken into account? would one need to know where you grew up and where

you are living now to get a better reading?

 

> Good starting point is Das Goravani's lessons on his

> web site. (GJ stands for Goravani Jyitishya and I

> preume you have visited his site.)

 

actually no i haven't. i just found this egroup this weekend so i

haven't really begun searching any sites online. if you have some

bookmarked URLs that you can send my way, i'd really appreciate it.

 

thanks in advance,

 

-=lata=-

[Guest guest]

Lata,

 

It is never easy to ask questions particularly where a possibility of people

at different levels reacting unpredictably to your questions exists. This

list, for the most part, is quite helpful as you must have already

recognized. My responses appear below as "MK: ..."

 

 

>Lata Narumanchi <lnarumanchi

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>Wed, 06 Sep 2000 02:16:45 -0500

>

>Hi -

>

>I'm new to the list so please bear with me if I ask any questions that

>may seem juvenile or are somehow inappropriate. I'm just curious about

>Vedic Astrology.

>

>I've been trying to understand how Vedic Astrology works and when I

>visited India some years back I was simply dismissed saying that us

>"americanized-indians" wouldn't get it.

>

MK: This is certainly not the [stereo]typical Indian response :-) Some of it

can be due to the individual's perception of your seriousness about

astrology, as well. Best remedy in such cases is to persevere. One good

thing about India is that there are >1 billion Indians, so statistically,

there are more jyotishis there than anywhere else and with the population

density and smaller landmass, your chances of finding someone who does not

harbor the [stereo]typical position higher.

 

>How exactly would I go about getting a "chart" reading done? And to

>this "chart", if I were born in India but raised in America, wouldn't

>the stars/planets that affect me change since I've moved to a different

>hemisphere? How is this accounted for when people do "chart" readings.

>Is the position of the planets when I was born factored in or when I was

>born and were I was born? If I was born under a given hemisphere where

>the stars/planets are seen one way, how do you take into account where

>you were raised and how the star/planet alignment is from that second

>hemisphere? Am I confused about how these charts are done?

>

MK: Stars and planets being far away from the earth, do not change their

tune depending on where on earth one is born. If you are referring to the

different zodiacs used by different schools of astrologers, that is of

course a different matter. For babies born at the same instant in Delhi and

Detroit what varies is the ascendant or orienting point in the chart. That

one tiny factor can lead to a significant difference, though :-)

 

If one were to have complete mastery over all facets of astrology, it would

perhaps be possible to identify factors in the chart (reliably) of the

environment. As it stands, most astrologers would find it difficult to

identify to near 100% successfully something so basically binary as the

gender of the nativity, just by looking at the chart. Identifying race,

nationality, other similar obviously significant and significantly obvious

factors also fall in the same situation as gender. However, this does not

necessarily mean that astrology cannot be of benefit to individuals. There

are some famous astrologers who claim to (or for whom the chelaas claim)

give uncanny details. These jyotishis are also spiritually advanced and some

of their success can be attributed to spiritually-aided astrological

readings. But that is not what we are talking about here (technical

astrology).

 

>What would be some suggested readings to learn more about this? Does

>this group have website? What are good online resources to learn more

>about this?

>

MK: Ask five people (from different lists, of course ;-) and you may get at

least four different recommendations. Westerners (including those of Indian

origin) generally find it easier to follow books by western authors, at

least in the beginning. So, Frawley (Vamadeva Sastri), Braha, Dreyer, Hart

etc., sound appealing. Indians generally prefer Raman, Rao, Charak, Bepin

Behari (he is in a class by himself). It is not necessarily a

'nationalistic' leaning that we are seeing in these recommendation but more

an expression of idiomatic identification and familiarity. The interesting

thing about many of these books is that they always touch a chord (hence

they are popular I suppose) within the reader and are very convincing. This

should always be followed by a study of real charts and perhaps lots of

'cold' readings (with only birthchart and not with the person sitting across

from you; this is where internet comes really handy) and you should ask the

person for feedback and engage in a series of readings rather than a one

time reading so that you can test the rules and fine-tune them as you get

feed back. If you make a mistake, what do you stand to lose?

 

While it is of some use to acquire fundamentals from books and software, you

would need to think about and mull over the basic terms, quantities and

constructs until it becomes second nature. Perhaps at this time you may not

be interested in going this far and are more interested in knowing and

learning about your own chart. Detailed readings if done well can actually

be quite a useful learning tool.

 

If you need some practice material, I will be happy to provide you with

such. Write if you are interested and when you are ready to spend some time

sincerely on astrology.

 

Manas

 

>Thanks inadvance,

>

>-=lata=-

 

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Lataji Namskar!

 

www.goravani.com is the URL, where you will find the

Jyitshya lessons from Das Goravani. Pretty useful if

yoou are uninitiated.

 

I have noted your birth details and should post you

some reading as soon as I get free from my

dessertation project. (I repeat I am a learner,

though.)

 

Is the TOB of 8pm exact?

 

Regarding your question:

 

> so when these readings are done, are these transits

> or trigger points

> taken into account? would one need to know where you

> grew up and where

> you are living now to get a better reading?

 

Yes. Trigger points are considered for making

predictions.

 

It is better to leave it to the person making chart

reading to decide about what details are needed.

 

After you read the basic lessons, you may raise the

question again.. I am sure you will be raising this

question again and again because it deals with some of

the finer points of Astrology!!

 

Regards

vishy

 

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City University Business School, London.

 

Phone: +44 (0)79 46 48 52 48

 

 

 

 

 

 

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