Guest guest Posted December 11, 2000 Report Share Posted December 11, 2000 Sunday, December 10, 2000 8:27 PM Re: Test Your Skill - Who's Coming to Dinner? All, Thought I would throw this out for those so inclined; it is a good thing to do things like this every so often - it keeps the skills honed. First, her planetary positions… Western Chart: Sun-Aqr Moon-Tau Merc-Aqr Ven-Aqr Mar-Cap Jup-Pis Sat-Can Ura-Sco Nep-Sag Plu-Lib Asc-Cap MC-Sco Vedic Chart: Sun-Cap Moon-Ari Mar-Sag Mer-Cap Jup-Aqr Ven-Cap Sat-Gem Rah-Sco Ket-Tau Asc-Sag The following is a fragment of an email I received late week, from a client that is scheduled to see me tomorrow night (Monday, Dec 11). She writes: my questions: i would like to know what direction to take regarding my current living situation. is my band on the right path... are we progressing in the right direction... is everyone committed for the long haul... and finally, will i ever fall in love.... will i ever marry.... there's a boy who i find interesting... should i take the initiative... or blow it off... On the face of it, this sounds like a standard "run around the block" - but consider the following factors: 1. Saturn is Retrograde (unfinished business with the Father) , in the 7th (all of the unresolved business spilling over into relationships; "marrying her Dad"), and ruling the Cap Asc; this same Saturn is square Pluto in the 9th (education interrupted) and Quindecile Mars (thus tying in the Mars-Pluto Syndrome symbolism, all of this going back to the early home environs - the Saturn Rx needs to be discussed) 2. The Sun is in Aquarius and the Moon is in Taurus (thus forming a Quarter-Moon configuration, suggesting Parental upset, upheaval in the home, having impact on this young woman; otherwise, this Sun-Moon blend suggests a strong desire to implement one's notions of Social Ideals (among the many who have/had this Sun-Moon combo, is Niccolo Machiavelli, career pol from Italy), made all the moreso by noting the Cap Asc, and the Aquarius cluster rising in the 1st 3. Mercury exactly conjoins Venus and both are square to the Moon, ruler of the 7th - so clearly, this is idealism in relationship run amok - but why?-could it be the Saturn Rx symbolism, the "traffic jam" that it is caught up in? Hmmm….note that the Moon is in the 4th, and Pluto, ruling the 10th is square Saturn Rx in the 7th…again, Hmmm… 4. Jupiter and Neptune are in Mutual Reception; in of itself, this might not mean anything, however, note that the Moon is VOC - these two symbolisms, bring dimensions of the Spiritual into the Profile, and by extension, into the discussion to come tomorrow night, all the moreso since tr Pluto is sitting this woman's Pluto, having come from the 9th 5. Mars is at the Aries Point, being at 00 Cap, in the 12th house; it is also part of the configuration bearing on the 7th house, discussed earlier. There is the suggestion that this woman is somehow "bucking the system, both in the outer world (7th and 12th houses), and, perhaps more importantly, with regard to her parents - she may choose partners that she knows her parents wouldn't approve of - the question that we have to ask is, why? Keep in mind that Uranus is at the MC natally (2 and 5 Scorpio, respectively) 6. Several midpoint pictures fill in the gaps/confirm what we have already seen: - Sun = Venus/Saturn: problems in relationship - Venus = Mars/Pluto: tremendous sex drive, getting involved with people to "cool this out" - Jupiter = Sun/Uranus: going one's own way, innovation, the big break, independence Key times to ask about would have been 11 yrs old (when SA Mars = Asc), 15-18 yrs old (when SA MC = Venus, and SA Uranus = Venus), and, most importantly, 21 yrs old (SA Saturn = MC). It should be a very interesting discussion indeed. At the time of consultation, tr Neptune is square to the MC, having just come from its conjunction of the Sun and square to Uranus last year, in 1999; this speaks in a big way, to problems on the job and the domestic situation, as well as general confusion with regard to relationship matters (the MC has been shown to play a huge role in the timing of relationship dimensions), tr Pluto is on the natal Neptune, in the 11th, the 2nd from the 10th, which Pluto rules, and tr Saturn is moving towards conjunction to the Moon in the 4th, again, the living quarters' concerns. Tr Uranus is gearing up to conjoin her Venus and next year, square her Moon ruling the 7th, with a plethora of Solar Arcs involving her Venus: SA Venus = Sun, SA Node = Venus, SA Venus = Jupiter, and SA Venus = Uranus, again, all next year, 2001. As Venus rules both, the 4th and 5th houses, it is very possible that this woman could move into a new place (the Uranus involvement with the Moon and Venus) AND get prgenant. But, we're not done - we now check the Vedic chart to see if it confirms what we've seen so far... 1. Mars rises in the 1st, and is mutally aspected by Saturn, in the 7th; this is NOT a good combination, and suggests strongly that abuse could have occurred. 2. Mars, Saturn and Rahu all aspect the 4th house - this is NOT good for both real estate, living surroundings, and for peace of mind in general. 3. Benefics Moon and Jupiter surround the 4th - this offers some hope for relief. 4. Mercury and Venus occupy the same degree - a Planetary War - and both also occupy Dhanistha Nakshatra, Mars' star, infamous for causing marital/relationship strife. Mercury is the 7th lord, where inimical Saturn resides; however, there is the chance for relief, as Jupiter aspects Saturn in the 7th, 7th lord Mercury forms Satkalatra Yoga with Venus, and Saturn occupies a star of Jupiter. Benefic planets occupy the Signs of Saturn, thus Saturn does have the ability to give good results. 5. 5th and 12th lord (Sexual Desire and Sexual Enjoyment) Mars (one of the 3 Sexual Planets in Vedic Astrology, the other two being Venus and Rahu) is in the 1st house, 8th lord (Sexual Power) is in the 5th, and Rahu is in the 12th; in addition, please note that the Moon is in an Angle from Venus. Thus, we can see a very powerful sexual drive, that has to be discussed in the consultation, and mirrors the findings of the Western chart. 6. Venus is in Cap, Mars aspects the 4th and 7th, and Saturn occupies the 7th - there are possible morality problems with regard to sex and relationships that have to be addressed (all the moreso, as Mars brings in the influence of Rahu, who is placed in Mars' Sign) 7. Rahu in the 12th from the Asc and aspecting 12 from Moon, with Ketu in the 2nd (appetite, the mouth) suggests possible drug abuse (especially with the transits of Neptune to the Sun, Uranus and the MC over in the Western chart)…Hmm… 8. Moon Dasa in operation from Jan 1994, and will run until Jan 2004, when Mars will begin. Current period is Moon-Mercury, which will last until Apr 2001. Moon is in the 5th house, and the 8th lord; it is the 4th lord from its own position. Venus aspects the 4th house from the Moon, and Moon-Venus begins Nov 2001, around the same time that the measurements in the Western chart are in full swing (the Uranus Arcs and transits spoken of earlier); note also that the Moon is in the 5th house - pregnancy. The Moon is in good shape here, as there are no aspects of malefics (though there is the hemming in of the Nodes, Ketu on one side of the Moon and Rahu aspecting the other side - however, their periods are not in operation. Moon Dasa will also bring in the Spiritual influence of Ketu, who is placed in the Moon's favorite star, Rohini, in the 6th house…Hmm… 9. Finally, note that the Moon is in the 4th house in the Navamsa chart, again denoting the probable move; Venus in the 1st, with Mercury exalted, speaks to a new relationship on the horizon. It is interesting to point out here, in light of my most recent post, the ties between me and this client - our Vedic Ascendants are the same, Sag, so are our Moons; over in the Western charts, again, the Ascendants are the same, this time in Cap, and the Moons are the same, in Taurus. These are very god signs. Further, her Saturn opposes my Asc, squares my Mars and Saturn (ruler of my chart). It promises to be a very interesting discussion. Well - if this person was coming to see you tomorrow night, what would you see in your preparation? How would you anticipate what was coming through the door? What would be your opening statement? What would you project for future times? Who is coming to Dinner? Salaam, Mu ===== Mu'Min M. Bey Western and Vedic Astrologer 1-888-514-5342 mumin_bey Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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