Guest guest Posted January 20, 2001 Report Share Posted January 20, 2001 All, Saw this thread having to do with the Outers; since I am both, a Western and Vedic Astrologer, this is what I have to say about it: I have found that the Outer Planets do not have the same effects in Vedic Astrology that they do in Western Astrology; conversely, timing techniques used in Vedic Astrology do mnot translate well into Western Astrology. I use both systems simultaneuously, but I don't mix the two. I use them side-by-side, the gauge the effects of the planets, in their many ways, upon the individual and the world. Note my recent articles, especially my most recent, on George W. Bush; it is a good example of how I use both systems, and how both CAN and SHOULd co-exist. Going over the Western side for a moment, it all makes sense; Pluto is in Sag right now, and has been since 1995; in that time, Vedic Astrology has really blown up, all over the world, and especially here in the USA. It was during this time, if I am not mistaken, that Dasji really strated to get off the ground with his software, that really has revolutionized things on the Vedic front. Pluto in Sag symbolizes the Information Superhighway; more people, from more countries, are connected in ways never before imagined. The last time that Pluto was in Sag, was during the The Enlightenment, and back then, a grand flowering of knowledge, from other societies and races coalesced in France and greater Europe. It was a grand time for Astrology, in partiular. Now, eith Pluto in Sag, more Races and cultures and philosophies, and yes, even Astrologies, will become closer than ever; they are not enemies, but rather, travellers on the same path to Enlightenment. Western Astrology has its place, as does Vedic Astrology. Take it, please, from someone knows both quite well. Outer Planet transits, for example, used within the Western horoscope, can be of a great help to the Vedic Astrologer - like for example, Rob Koch's Pluto transit of his Moon. This is a once in a lifetime event; and it could be used along with the info gleaned from his Vedic chart, to gain additionally insight into what was going on in his life at that time. The same can be done in the reverse, with vedic Astrology. Just look at one of the most basic, but most powerful techniques in Western Astrology, the Saturn Return; this is when Saturn, by ttransit, returns to its natal position in the horoscope, every 28-30 years; the first such return will occur when someone is between 28 and 30, and the second one wil occur when they are between 58 and 60. This is a time of conspicuous career assessment, both times; Level changes in a dramatic sort of way; Life is re-assessed; things have to change, either because it is time to crank it up a notch, after having done well, or, because what one was doing simply isn;t working. The Vedic Astrologer can get a whole lot out of this simple technique, and add hat to his already existing info-base of Vedic Astrological knowledge. What about the Western Astrologer? Well, we here on the Vedic side know well, about the Sade Sati, yet many Western Astrologers don't. What if they just took that simple technique - what if, alopng with their other notes - had that Vedic chart in front of them, and had the one method, Sade Sati, at their disposal? How could that additional piece of info, helpo them to help others? What could they miss, if the DIDN'T use that? The same could be said for the Vedic Astrologers, who "sleep" on WA. We are now in the Age of Information, and we cannot afford to miss out on something valuable simply because we insist on the primacy of ancient info, or because we may be close-minded. As the world gets smaller and smaller, these great systems, will get closer and closer. It's already begun, with people like me, who actively uses both in my practice and teaching. It is on ly a matter of what, a few years, before more and more Astrologers, world-wide, begin to do same. I entreat my Vedic colleagues, Dasji and Rob and others alike, to come on in, and learn about the how the Westerners saw the skies; don't be afraid to incorporate some of their views; you do not hav e to abandon any of what you have - in fact, all of this only makes you that much more equipped to aid others. In the weeks to come, I will write more extensively about this. Salaam, Mu ===== Mu'Min M. Bey Western and Vedic Astrologer 1-888-514-5342 mumin_bey Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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