Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Hello Manoj, I hope this note finds you well. Australian Eastern Standard Time zone is -10hrs east of GMT. I have just checked T.G.Shanks International Atlas, and find Mildura at -9:28:36. I have always used -10. I am not about to jump off the wheel anytime soon, so if you have any words of wisdom or advice you would like to share, please do. Best Wishes, Ann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Ann Murphy wrote: > > Hello Manoj, > I hope this note finds you well. > Australian Eastern Standard Time zone is -10hrs east of GMT. I have just > checked T.G.Shanks International Atlas, and find Mildura at -9:28:36. I have > always used -10. Dear Ann, I have sent Manoj your full chart positions. Hope I have not infringed the laws of privacy! BTW: - 10 hrs is the time for calculating the positions of the planets. But -9 etc. is the Local Time reqd for getting the sidereal time, which determines lagna and MC. All programmes calculate this LT from the longitude. But Manoj does it all by hand and it would not be fair to "confuse" him with the double info! Your TOB is as the clock said. Any astrologer who calculates should do the rest himself based on longitude, Mean Sun, bija correction, equation of time etc. Used to do all this laboriously years ago, thank God the programmes deal with all this junk! It takes about 2 minutes to fill in the data and get the chart. Even as late as 1965 it took at least 2 hours! To start with, the convention - and + can be misleading! Both refer to the following formula: Standard Time + Time zone = GMT. AEST 11 am + (- 10 hrs) = AEST 11 - 10 = 1 am GMT. EST 11 am + (+ 5 hrs) = ESt 11 + 5 = 16.00 GMT = 4 pm GMT. Thus AEST is actually GMT + 10 hrs, EST is GMT - 5hrs! AEST is the LOCAL TIME at 150° East. Mildura is only 142^09´00". Let us forget the minutes, it is approx. 8° WEST of 150°. This represents at 4 clock minutes per degree of longitude 4 x 8 = 32 minutes of time, LESS than AEST. So you get 10 - 32 = 9h 28m. From this and the sidereal time at noon or midnight plus another correction of 10 secs per hour the sidereal time at birth is determined and the lagna point read off from tables. The standard Time is the accepted time for a large area, based on the Local Time at a particular longitude. Otherwise every place would have its own time and no coordination of schedules will be possible. The local NOON is when the sun is exactly on the meridian - exactly south for most of us, exactly north for Aussies. But it happens at 12:00 (pm) only at the longitude of the Standard Time. For all other places NOON does not occur at 12:00hrs. So the question of when Gary Cooper did what he did, by the clock or by the sun, depends on where he did it in Texas! Made no difference, perhaps, as long as Grace Kelly waited for him ...... I have written this for people who leave all calcs to the machine - and have never gone into the astronomical details. If you knew all this, please forgive me for playing teacher! So: "Do not forsake me, oh my darlings on this our muddling day..." regards Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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