Guest guest Posted January 26, 2001 Report Share Posted January 26, 2001 Das Goravani quoted Chris: > > >As tempting a concept as karma is to those who would prefer to abdicate > thought on current issues of the day, I'm not buying this idea that women > who abort are somehow punished in later lives. Sounds exactly what the > religious nuts on the right argue: you're goin' straight to hell! In a sense I agree that threats of punishment in later lives is a matter of speculation. BUT I think the "punishment" is felt in this life itself! Politically I do defend the right of a woman to decide about her child, but is this "moral" or "sensible"? And in any case a father who suggests or supports abortion is aiding murder. The question of when the foetus becomes a human being with a soul is irrelevant: the intention is already there. Abortion for "economical" reasons is IMHO "criminal". The state which compels some to take this way is abetting crime. The only valid reason for an abortion is to save the life of the mother physically. Today perhaps one may consider this step if a major defect is found in the baby.... This is a moot question. Perhaps such children are sent to give us a chance to help! In such situations I say,"May he who is without sin throw the first stone: and may his aim be good!" regards Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2001 Report Share Posted January 26, 2001 > > Politically I do defend the right of a woman to decide about her child, but is > this "moral" or "sensible"? And in any case a father who suggests or supports > abortion is aiding murder. The question of when the foetus becomes a human being > with a soul is irrelevant: the intention is already there. Abortion for > "economical" reasons is IMHO "criminal". The state which compels some to take > this way is abetting crime. Lest we forget that economics and politics are intertwined...and politics involves society--the dispersion (or collection) of power within society...as such this particular society is rather child un-friendly as two or more incomes are needed to support children...therefore, single mothers that maintain a limited support system (if they have one at all) and have accepted the responsibility of carrying and bearing a child (which is not a mere "inconvenience" but a tremendous commitment) are at a defecit as without proper child care it is close to impossible to attain economically viable employment (or training in order to be adequately educated for this purpose)....additionally, without $$$$ sustaining day care for a child or children is greatly diminished (a bit of a catch 22 there)....mother-hood is a tough road even WITH support of the paternity as caring for a child takes a tremendous amount of time and energy (and you operate on little sleep for at least the first 4 months unless you are fortunate).....each situation needs to be assessed and addressed individually, and ALL options (INCLUDING celibacy) should be available for consideration (yes, including abortion)...(a sidenote...my midwife began speaking with me about birth control options after the birth of my Son...I told her that abstinance was that less travelled road I was walking on)... Society shares the burden of children that have grown up in homes unable to support them emotionally (even I hit points of frustration with raising my Son--but Ganesha helps me there), and/or financially (read: physically)as they have a greater capability of continuing the legacy of impoverishment...therefore, if one denies abortion as an alternative, than, instead of throwing those stones--get creative and offer a less invasive option!!! It ticks me off to witness all of these "armchair" activists touting "OHHHH abortion shouldn't be allowed because god this and jesus that"....what a genetic fallacy....instead of wasting time and precious karmic energy being a hypocrite and murdering Dr.'s and Family Planning Employees...offer support for these Mothers that are often PETRIFIED of what pregnancy and child birth hold for them....don't spout some biblical passage and then send them on their way, that's worthless worthless worthless.... Slante chugat, Kat and Kegan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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